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Title: Oops!
Post by: Sheepkeeper on October 19, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
 
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I guess I can tick this off the list of things that will>happen some day.  :D I used two boards to span the loader arms to load it on to the mill and just as it came off the loader I realised that I had forgotten to raise the manual backstops. It didn't roll fast but I still couldn't get there in time to stop it. Of course the customer was watching.  :D Had to use the FEL to get it back up on the mill.
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Post by: Banjo picker on October 19, 2019, 10:26:24 AM
I am long since passed that one.  It has been a while but I am sure I will get back around to it.  Banjo
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 19, 2019, 10:55:09 AM
   I'm sure glad I've never done anything like that (At least not when anyone was around to see it :D).
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Post by: Banjo picker on October 19, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
@WV Sawmiller (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) that is when you will do it.  Get you an audience and things will go wrong.  Thatís why I usually just shut the mill down when someone comes up. Banjo
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 19, 2019, 11:29:21 AM
   Yes and the bigger the audience the bigger and more impressive the mistake you will make has been my experience. :D Kind of like when we were in school and there was some real cute girl you were trying to impress. That's when you'd fall flat on your face.
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Post by: KenMac on October 19, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
Happened to me for the first time when a good friend stopped by to see the mill cut a log. He has a LT15. We both just laughed about it. :D
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Post by: Magicman on October 19, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
Surely is funnier when someone else does it.  :D
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Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 19, 2019, 05:03:30 PM
Wondering how you saw with the fender on?
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 19, 2019, 06:55:22 PM
  The fender was left on to protect the tire from run-away logs. :D :D
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Post by: Chuck White on October 19, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
I've done that twice, both times, only the offbearer and myself were there, "honest"!

The only thing I've ever worried about was breaking the feed chain!
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Post by: KenMac on October 19, 2019, 08:30:27 PM
Surely is funnier when someone else does it.  :D
Might as well laugh about it.....that's less messy than crying! Besides I just picked it up with my tractor and set it back on  the mill. No damage to anything except my pride.
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Post by: Cjross73 on October 19, 2019, 09:00:24 PM
I just did this yesterday demonstrating the log loading process to my step son. No pics but I got to cross that off the list
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Post by: Southside on October 19, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
At this time, on the advice of council, I wish to invoke my 5th Amendment right not to say anything on the grounds I may incriminate myself.   :-X
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Post by: Banjo picker on October 19, 2019, 09:26:36 PM
Any time someone takes the fifth....we immediately assume they are guilty.  So you might as well come clean.  Banjo
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Post by: Magicman on October 19, 2019, 09:39:14 PM
I probably have ~6 of them on my "scoreboard",  2-3 pictured here on the FF.  :-X
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Post by: Southside on October 19, 2019, 09:56:12 PM
The ones you throw off the mill with a chain turner and completely clear the tire - those are the ones you remember.   ;D
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Post by: Nebraska on October 19, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
It's really irritating to roll on off your manual mill while using you can't hook. At least from what I gather. No witnesses.
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Post by: WDH on October 20, 2019, 07:16:53 AM
Mr. Sheepkeeper, Sir,

I hate it when that happens :).  


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BTW, this is the modified Robert's Reverse Roll Quartersawing Technique (RRRQS).  It requires a few more detailed steps than the one described in the manual  ;D.  
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Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 20, 2019, 07:58:29 AM
 
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I see nothing!!!
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Post by: Old Greenhorn on October 20, 2019, 08:07:45 AM
AH! You guys with all that fancy powered equipment! Now us manual load and mill guys may be slow, but I for myself, have never rolled a log off like that. We are thoughtful and careful.  ;D :D
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Post by: GAB on October 20, 2019, 12:52:56 PM
AH! You guys with all that fancy powered equipment! Now us manual load and mill guys may be slow, but I for myself, have never rolled a log off like that. We are thoughtful and careful.  ;D :D
Unless you rid yourself of the mill yesterday, just like me, your turn is coming.
GAB
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Post by: GAB on October 20, 2019, 12:58:52 PM
Mr. Sheepkeeper, Sir,

I hate it when that happens :).  


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BTW, this is the modified Robert's Reverse Roll Quartersawing Technique (RRRQS).  It requires a few more detailed steps than the one described in the manual  ;D.  
Danny:
For some reason I think you got the wrong lever.  Got the log stop one instead of the clamp one.
Sure hope it does not take too long to rebuild you pride.
GAB
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Post by: Old Greenhorn on October 20, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
AH! You guys with all that fancy powered equipment! Now us manual load and mill guys may be slow, but I for myself, have never rolled a log off like that. We are thoughtful and careful.  ;D :D
Unless you rid yourself of the mill yesterday, just like me, your turn is coming.
GAB
No doubt! But today was not that day. Instead I chose a different 'first time for that'. I found some barbed wire....... the hard way. :-[ :-[
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Post by: Sheepkeeper on October 20, 2019, 05:30:23 PM
Wondering how you saw with the fender on?
Easy, it's not in the way and I just step a little wider to get around it. I only leave it on when I'm sawing at home, on mobile jobs it comes off.
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Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 20, 2019, 05:35:31 PM
Just surprised that the head clears the fender.  On my mills there is about 1-1/2 to 1-3/4 " clearance above the tire itself in a setup where most of the weight is taken off of the tire.  No way the head can pass by a fender.  Lt40 super or LT70 super
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Post by: Southside on October 20, 2019, 06:03:44 PM
My 70 will pass by. Do you have the off set insert? 
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Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 20, 2019, 06:23:34 PM
Yes- I was thinking about height.
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Post by: Southside on October 20, 2019, 06:56:05 PM
Mine will clear it, I put it on before I park the head. 
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Post by: Magicman on October 20, 2019, 10:01:29 PM
Both of my fenders are the first things removed during setup and the last things installed after take down.  My saw head will not pass the right fender and the loader will not clear the left fender.  
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Post by: YellowHammer on October 21, 2019, 12:43:40 AM
Iíve done this particular Oops once or twice, but never was calm enough to snap a photo.  

Sooner or later, when during the RRRQS technique, there will be an ďover roleĒ.
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Post by: Bindian on October 21, 2019, 01:03:42 AM
The ones you throw off the mill with a chain turner and completely clear the tire - those are the ones you remember.   ;D
I did that yesterday with a 5.5 x 20 inch ten foot cant, with my turning claw.  Guess I blinked or something.  I was hot and ready for a break.  It went over the backstops, all but one.  Half on and half off.   I chained it to the the grapple and lifted it back onto the mill.  Going to get the tractor is what I call the walk of shame.
hugs,  Brandi
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Post by: East ky logging on October 21, 2019, 04:05:32 AM
Iíve done that a couple times myself. I have a lt-15 set up stationary and I do it when Iím loading the log ramps up with logs and try to get one more on and push just a little bit and one will roll just right and across the mill it goes. 
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Post by: WDH on October 21, 2019, 07:04:46 AM
Sooner or later, when during the RRRQS technique, there will be an ďover roleĒ.
The "Modified" Version ;D. 
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Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 21, 2019, 07:59:53 AM
Mine will clear it, I put it on before I park the head.
Hey-that's how to get around the little back bungee problem!  thumbs-up
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Post by: alanh on October 21, 2019, 08:15:25 AM
the last time I did it was with a 16 'ft long 22" diameter red oak log, did I mention my mill is inside a shed, on blocking, 3 ft away from a concrete wall...getting the log out from between the mill and the wall was an adventure I`d rather forget, but the memory keeps me from doing it again,,, for a while
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Post by: Ed_K on October 21, 2019, 08:48:04 AM
 Alanh, I'm right with you exactly.The only diff. was mine was 14'. I spent a couple hrs getting it up enough to get a strap around to winch it out with the tractor. Ended up re-leveling the base then the mill.
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Post by: Southside on October 21, 2019, 09:01:00 AM
Mine will clear it, I put it on before I park the head.
Hey-that's how to get around the little back bungee problem!  thumbs-up
And that's why I do it that way. I can barely touch the front bungee, forget about the other one otherwise.
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Post by: Sheepkeeper on October 23, 2019, 07:23:02 AM
Wondering how you saw with the fender on?
Easy, it's not in the way and I just step a little wider to get around it. I only leave it on when I'm sawing at home, on mobile jobs it comes off.
I have modified the dust chute to be more like that on the LT35 so that it throws the sawdust a little further away from the walking path. Probably wouldn't work without the mod. Here is a pic to illustrate. Sawhead is at 1 inch.

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Post by: GDinMaine on November 01, 2019, 07:26:31 AM
 
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 I haven't done that ... more than 2 or three times. It took a few four letter words to put that back on there. 
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Post by: petefrom bearswamp on November 01, 2019, 08:01:07 AM
I aint sayin nuthin
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Post by: Magicman on November 01, 2019, 08:21:19 AM
I will say this; if that truck door stays open, the inside will get sawdust.  :o   Same as if a window in left open.  :-X
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Post by: Stephen1 on November 01, 2019, 08:32:10 AM
I have doen it where it took a few hours to hand lift it back up at a customers,, no heavy equipment to lift it with. The last thing I do after I saw the last board is lift the back stops, move the clamp all the way out, then I shut down the mill aand move lumber and load a log on th arms.
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Post by: Banjo picker on November 01, 2019, 01:28:05 PM
That is the reason that if you have an energy chain (gooseneck) with your hydraulic lines in it... you always bring the mill back before you roll a log or cant.  Banjo
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Post by: SawyerTed on November 01, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
My wife's cousin had me come to the home place of their grandparents to saw some 32" red oak logs.  Yep, rolled one over the back stops and off the mill.  No equipment to get the log back in place so I had to break the mill down and turn it around to get the log.  I was sawing the lumber for family (aka free of charge) so the time didn't matter.
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Post by: Stephen1 on November 02, 2019, 08:33:07 AM
My wife's cousin had me come to the home place of their grandparents to saw some 32" red oak logs.  Yep, rolled one over the back stops and off the mill.  No equipment to get the log back in place so I had to break the mill down and turn it around to get the log.  I was sawing the lumber for family (aka free of charge) so the time didn't matter.
On the WM they get stuck between the frame and the tire, not a good spot as you have to lift them out
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Post by: samandothers on November 02, 2019, 10:07:30 AM
I just did this yesterday demonstrating the log loading process to my step son. No pics but I got to cross that off the list
I am sure you immediately shared this is to show what not to do and is part of the demonstration.