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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: jb14972 on December 01, 2019, 06:11:22 PM

Title: Crane mats
Post by: jb14972 on December 01, 2019, 06:11:22 PM
Anybody cutting crane mats? Im looking for some advice on the best way to assemble and an outlet for bolts. Im looking the cut the 8 x16 mats
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: Oliver05262 on December 01, 2019, 07:36:12 PM
Windy Ridge Corp. in Tamworth, NH advertises threaded rods for assembling bridges. 1 X 4 foot long w/nuts & washers. Maybe they can provide outer sizes/lengths. They run an ad in the Northern Logger. 800 639 2021
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: jb14972 on December 02, 2019, 01:31:24 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: nativewolf on December 02, 2019, 06:46:10 AM
Well the input may or may not be wanted but here goes:

https://fastmatusa.com/product/fastmat-drill/ (https://fastmatusa.com/product/fastmat-drill/)

Now what does that mean?  It means that so many people went to build crane and timber mats that a guy found it more profitable to build a tool than make mats.  Here in VA two mennonite mills became big players in the mat business, they found it possible to buy sub tie log quality logs and make mats.  The dry year and lack of new pipelines meant business really slowed.  They are full of logs, which means they are not selling mats.  Which means the pricing is going to be under pressure.  

My advice (free and maybe worthless) be very cautious, make sure you really have your financial projections dialed in.  If the market is glutted and you are cautious and have a captive client it can be a good time to prepare for growth.  Re growth:  The NG world is under huge pressure.  International markets are getting clobbered by tremendous new projects coming on line in Australia and other locations.  The US is the swing producer and will react very quickly to short term changes in pricing, our producers don't have long term contracts (usually) and can/will take pricing where/when it makes sense.  They'll also stop drilling and delay pipelines.  Just keep an eye on your clients business, if oil read up on oil markets, if NG ditto.  Get an online subscription to the Wall Street Journal or Financial Times (better written london's international view on things).  Both markets (oil or gas) are absolutely global and pricing is volatile.  

If I were doing mats we'd have started with the fastmat product.  Then moved up if we could have made a $.  There are more efficient products but they are for sawmills.  Another cautionary note, a pallet mill can build mats with minimal investments.  
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: Gearbox on December 02, 2019, 10:01:59 PM
around us the market was hot for a while . Pipeline and a huge power line . Done for now . look for your market .
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: thecfarm on December 03, 2019, 05:59:50 AM
There was an upgrade in the electric power lines. These was callled swamp mats,8 feet wide by 16 feet long?


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10436/matmillthecfarmsept2013.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1380585641)


This was a place that sawed the mats. This was back in 2013. Not much going on now. Ride the boom while you can.
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: nativewolf on December 03, 2019, 06:24:52 AM
they are heavy and expensive to truck so there are local markets.  That said, the pic by @thecfarm (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=436) says a whole lot.  Now if it stays wet all winter in NY and they need to work in the spring they will buy truckloads.

Just be cautious, don't make big or any investments without knowing how to get back out of your sunk expenses.  

Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: dustintheblood on December 03, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
There's a huge pile of these that showed up in an abandoned field near here a few months ago.  Truck after truck  came to drop, but that was the end of the story.
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: luap on December 03, 2019, 05:09:58 PM
Cl in Mich has a bunch of used crane mats listed. I know nothing about the market but that says something.
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: Cruiser_79 on March 17, 2020, 05:08:50 AM
What species do you use in US and Canada for rig/crane mats? In Europe most mats are made of Azobe or other tropical hardwood, quite strong stuff;

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TypSNNu5zSAar19-jpCcATevN6eoDrR_MnLzQMB6sxzQ93MAfPRj64Mj5l5BYUu0NCMUELH-b-LMzsCGMKp5eKoSSS_7AREW_FOvDk1TBxKNVsA1-SHGH9o)
Title: Re: Crane mats
Post by: thecfarm on March 17, 2020, 05:26:57 AM
That sawmill now does not look like that now. Looks like an empty parking lot now.