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Title: Timber king 2000
Post by: Greysonvalleyrr on February 10, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
Well i am now looking at a Timberking 2000. There are a few close to me that have them and have to call them on there take of it.  Anyone here have any good, bad or indifferent on the mill. it comes in at 43,673.00 delivered. 
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: farmfromkansas on February 10, 2020, 01:33:40 PM
There are a couple of TK 1600's in my neighborhood.  Seem to be good mills.  Great thing is they have hydraulics.
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Larry on February 10, 2020, 01:39:22 PM
My 2000 is 10 years old.  Runs perfect and makes excellent lumber.

It was an excellent investment and I hope to be running it for a lot more years.

I've had excellent customer service along with support, even on a couple of things way out of warranty.  A stand up company!
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Greysonvalleyrr on February 10, 2020, 01:44:40 PM
It does not come with a debarker which is 2,000.00 extra. The salesman said it was an option and it was a waste of time to use it. 
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: doc henderson on February 10, 2020, 01:45:10 PM
I love mine and have sawn all types and sizes of wood.  Matt is a good resource.  I have only had a few problems, and TK helped me with troubleshooting.  The price has gone up since I got mine.  I enjoyed seeing the offices and underground assembly area.  It is the only mill I have owned.  I have had mine for 7 years and they have made several improvements I wish I had.  cut throat is up to 35 inches from my 32.
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 10, 2020, 01:48:40 PM
It does not come with a debarker which is 2,000.00 extra. The salesman said it was an option and it was a waste of time to use it.
Why? I love my debarker.

Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: doc henderson on February 10, 2020, 01:50:27 PM
I did not get the debarker.  I was trying to keep things simple and less expensive.  It may save some blade longevity, but also add to the complexity.  I also was interest but did not get the drag back. and now in the place it sits, I could not use it.  I liked the semi automatic style.  It would not be hard for a person with fab skills to make one.  It depends on what your goals are.  
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 10, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
   I'd have to change my off-bearing process if I had and used a drag back as I almost always off load off the end instead of the front. Yes, debarkers need periodic maintenance and adjustment but I find the time and expense are well worth the effort. TEHO
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: ladylake on February 10, 2020, 03:34:28 PM

 Great mill, the new ones also have the blade going 36" above the deck which really helps with those big logs.  Several have taken their debarker off including me, I'd put that money towards a sharpener and  setter for the rare occasion when you have to saw through dirt..  Most times dirt can be avoided.  Steve
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Greysonvalleyrr on February 11, 2020, 11:30:51 AM
Talked to one local and he likes it. He says there blades are junk unless you only cut soft pine. Was watching on gov deals a woodmizer 1990  LT40hd 1000 hrs from Peoria Park District, IL bid is 6300 with 8 days left. 
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: doc henderson on February 11, 2020, 12:17:31 PM
I use the blades and have no complaints.  Kasco will have blades.  They may be a step up, but the TK blades work for me.
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: SawyerTed on February 11, 2020, 01:47:45 PM
I'm not familiar with the TK debarker so there may be reasons for not getting it that I'm not aware of.   I didn't start out using my debarker but once I got better at the controls, I did start using it consistently.  There was a noticeable increase in board feet produced per blade when using the debarker.  There's lots of variables but I'm guessing on average 20% more board feet per blade.  
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Outlaw on February 11, 2020, 01:53:26 PM
I have TK blades and Woodmizer, my limited experience can't tell a difference. 
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Banjo picker on February 11, 2020, 05:35:55 PM
Why would you take a debarked off a mill. 😒Banjo
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: DPatton on February 11, 2020, 05:55:34 PM
I have sawn only part time since 2016 without a debarker on my TK1600. It has worked out ok for me so far. However now that I am sawing more and more custom jobs I can seriously see the value a debarker can add to your setup. Especially when your going thru 5, 6, 7, or more blades a day.
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Board Cutter on February 12, 2020, 11:16:14 PM
I've had my 2000 for 10 years and have had no problems beyond normal maintenance.  The debarker wasn't an option when I bought mine, I've had good results with my TimberKing blades but I don't have anything to compare it with.
I did buy a sharpener and setter and feel that was a good investment.

If I was going to buy a new mill tomorrow I would go with TimberKing again.
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: ladylake on February 16, 2020, 05:42:07 AM
Why would you take a debarked off a mill. 😒Banjo
 It was in the way on long logs, hard to keep adjusted and spent more time using it than sharpening a extra blade or 2 once in a while. Most time dirt can be avoided.  Steve
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Banjo picker on February 16, 2020, 02:21:43 PM
I guess itís all in the way itís designed.  If I get a really big log too close to the front of the mill, I have to raise the head up to get the log on the deck to avoid hitting the debarked arm, but after itís on the deck, itís all good.  Banjo
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: doc henderson on February 16, 2020, 03:14:37 PM
I think the salesman (Matt) is trying to listen to what your goals are.  I think as a company they would love to sell more stuff, but as a hobby guy, he felt I would not "need" it and I was already feeling like it was quite an expense for the mill.  same for the drag back.  could buy now or later, or make one, or depending on the setup and location, may not be able to use it.  they are options to add if you want.  they were about 500 bucks each 8 years ago when I bought my mill.
Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: Larry on February 16, 2020, 10:23:26 PM
Grade sawing 4/4 big cherry.  Sawing about 250 board foot per hour by myself in 8 foot logs.  I would be a tired puppy without my dragback.  I seldom move more than a few steps from the operator station and seldom lift a board or slab. 
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Title: Re: Timber king 2000
Post by: rmaustin on February 20, 2020, 09:17:48 AM
Not a 2000 but just got back from KC w my new 1400 incl Setworks and looking forward to starting up soon. I will say the support at TK was what made me buy one and I was really impressed w the build quality. I'm a detail guy and these saws are made to last! Sure, its a bunch of money but remember, tools make money and toys cost money....