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General Forestry => Urban and Community Forestry => Topic started by: Ironwood on April 11, 2008, 04:50:08 PM

Title: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Ironwood on April 11, 2008, 04:50:08 PM
I had to share, phone rings, well intending guy has walnut available for cutting. "send pics I say" , here you go. Walnuts are so desirable we're turing ash into walnut (sorry for the sarcism). He thinks these trees yielded walnuts last year .

 (http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/oASHWALNUT.jpg)

       Ironwood
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: ely on April 11, 2008, 05:18:39 PM
maybe english walnuts.
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: woodmills1 on April 11, 2008, 06:17:16 PM
reminds me of the guy who wanted money for his good white oak that turned out to be hickory.
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: WDH on April 11, 2008, 07:55:51 PM
Not the best grade ash either.  It is clear that this guy does not know his ash from walnut :).
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: woodmills1 on April 11, 2008, 09:00:22 PM
his ash.............. :D nice one.............. :D
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Dave Shepard on April 13, 2008, 12:34:27 AM
It's always tough to have to tell someone they've got the species wrong, or that a 6" cherry isn't a $5k/mbf veneer log. They usually think you are trying to decieve them. :-\


Dave
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: crtreedude on April 13, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
Just show him a piece of good walnut and say,

"I am sorry to tell you, but no one will want your walnut, the heartwood has no color..."  ::)

Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Dale Hatfield on April 13, 2008, 02:48:58 PM
I drove to a landowners place few years ago to look at cherry trees  Said he had em all over and they were big .
 Well they were big and but they were far from cherry . River birch .

Dale
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Sparty on April 13, 2008, 06:54:16 PM
maybe english walnuts.

People joke about the English people being pasty white....but thier walnut too? ;D
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: ely on April 14, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
i'll add a story here, if i may. had a lady awhile back say her two big pines were dead in front of her rent house. wanted to know if i wanted to saw lumber from them. i told her sure cause she is a friend. i ask when i could cut them and she said her son was going to cut them down. ok i say just let me know.
a couple months later he cuts them down and decides since they are worth alot of money he will sell them himself. takes them 15 miles to a sawmill and gets 25 cents bdft. several trips mind you. these trees are big, guessing 48 inches on the stump. a couple days transpire and the sawmill calls him and says come get your logs. apparently he  failed to mention they were yard trees, they had found metal in them with a detector. refused to saw them.

he could have brought them to my mill, 2 miles tops, and i would have paid him if it was money he wanted.
i really think i could saw them with minimal damage. but now i know they have metal so i can watch for it. at any rate if they show up i will get some pictures of the logs and sawing for you folks.
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Ironwood on April 15, 2008, 08:52:55 AM
Yes, you were trying to rob them weren't you.  ;) Hopefully the son learned his lesson. You just can't tell some people.

              Ironwood
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: johncinquo on April 15, 2008, 10:25:15 AM
I had someone offer me their walnut log they had cut down out of their yard yesterday. 

For $350.   :D :o 


I said thanks, but no. 
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Ironwood on April 15, 2008, 12:25:35 PM
Yeah, I know. I need to take a picture of a LOAD of walnut I got from Frickman (on the FF). It is from a logging job he is on, and at "market" the BIGGEST forest walnut I have ever seen was $400, the rest of all of it was worth another $150. Kinda makes me want to stop dealing with million dollar urban stuff that is worth a million per tree ::) I just get tired of explaining myself, perhaps like Darin, I should just hand them a sheet laying it all out. I think I WILL do that, and perhaps photograph the BIG pile from Frickman as an example.

 Ironwood
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: KjBarnwood on April 18, 2008, 11:09:25 AM
I deal in reclaimed wood, and EVERYONE has wormy chestnut.  They think if it has holes in it, it must be chestnut.  Because worms only ate chesnut back then.

I love it I always hear, "My buddy is a wood shop teacher and said it is chesnut"... sorry he's wrong!

Kj
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Ironwood on April 19, 2008, 09:09:59 PM
Yeah, I have put on a few miles looking into those stories.One that comes to mind was a very "hard to figure out case" It was only 80 miles one way and almost a whole day. At least I could understand the confusion as even for me it was hard to decifer. Yeah, I hear you there.

 Ironwood
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Frickman on April 20, 2008, 03:58:38 PM
That was a nice load Reid got off my job. It had the nicest forest grown walnut I've ever cut. If it had been a veneer tree it would have been worth alot more. It had some problems though that knocked it down to sawlog grade. It went to a good home, Reid will make something nice from it.
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: urbanlumberinc on June 16, 2008, 11:46:56 PM
I just got a call today about a "monster" black walnut, and by the way "how much will you pay for it?"  First, I responded "I don't pay for logs, but if it is in fact a walnut and in good shape I'll remove the log for free, saving you the cost of the hauling and disposal, that's the payment."  After some back and forth I agree to drive out to the guys place and take a look at the log.  Turns out his "monster" black walnut was actually a very rotten American Elm.  After a few minutes of arguing, the befuddled log owner finally agreed to look at my feild guide to north american trees and conceded that the tree was in fact an elm.  "Well go ahead and take it away then" the guy says, to which I replied "and do what with it?"  "Saw it up into lumber, that is what you do right?"  "True" I say, "but this log is rotten to the core, and useless as even firewood.  Thanks, but no thanks, I say."  I turn to leave and the guy has the cajones to mutter something about turning me into the better business bureau.  Now I'm *pithed - "First, I'm not even a member of the BBB so go ahead and knock yourself out pal, second, just what exactly is it that I've done to slight you?"  "you promised me a free log removal."  "Well, I lied, C-ya"
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Ironwood on June 17, 2008, 02:36:44 AM
Amazing isn't it? I have been very sheltered from dealing with the public for years. I have great furniture clients, and kinda pick and choose, but the dealings for the trees/ logs puts me right in there with the general public, sure can be fun  ::) sometimes. Looks like you had a real gem there!

          Ironwood
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: bck on June 17, 2008, 05:28:27 AM
It was a walnut tree for sale on ebay last week . 24" diameter, and 54" from the ground was where limbs started. Tree was crooked ( the 54" part )and beside a fence. They were asking 9500.00 if you cut it down and cleaned up the mess. :D :D
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 17, 2008, 06:18:35 PM
Junk is junk no matter what species it is.  ;D
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: urbanlumberinc on June 18, 2008, 01:09:50 PM
I saw that one on ebay also.  I was so amused I couldn't resist the opportunity to have a little fun at the guy's expense.  I IM'd him asking a few dumb questions which drew even dumber responses.  It seems the guy had done a lot of "research" online and had seen sites selling walnut for as much as $60/bdft and provided a link to a site selling monster claro slabs for tables and such.  When I wrote back that the pieces he'd seen in the site were claro walnut and quite a bit larger than what he had, and for that matter were already cut and dried, the guy assured me that his was a claro walnut, and that a woodworker friend of his guaranteed him that his log would have some of the best looking walnut around, and that 10 grand for his log would be a bargain.  I laughed so hard I almost choked :D
Title: Re: Walnut so valuable, ash is the new Walnut
Post by: Ironwood on June 18, 2008, 09:57:19 PM
Urban,

 Great story, thanks for yanking his  chain and sharing the response. Good stuff. I wonder if you don't buy it, if he will report you to the BBB?  ;D
 
Ironwood