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Title: diet drinks
Post by: easymoney on June 17, 2008, 10:05:14 PM
i found this on another forum. what do you think?

My sister started getting very sick. She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around.
Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.
She had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her.
She was in so much pain, and so sick she just knew she was dying.

She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.

She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.

On March 19 I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS. I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda?

She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.

I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda! I e-mailed her article my friend, a lawyer, had sent.

My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk!
The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but, she sure felt a lot better.

She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.

Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind.

In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda...and literally dying a slow and miserable death.

When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery. And she is walking!
No wheelchair! This article saved her life.

If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT! I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as 'Nutra Sweet,'
'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'

In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous:
When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire a nts.
The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.

Many people were being diagnosed in error.
Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!

Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.

The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition.

We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.
In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.

This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia.

During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (Nutra Sweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs, Cramps, Vertigo,
Dizziness, Headaches, Tinnitus, Joint pain,
Unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!'
People were jumping up during the lecture saying, 'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'

STOP dr nking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it!

This is a serious problem.
Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!

Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates. It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!
These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.'

Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!

Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.

Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics.

We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame.
The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control.

Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.

Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE.
Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, Seizures,
Depression, Manic depression, Panic attacks,
Uncontrollable anger and rage.

Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well.
Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet.

So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed. Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!

Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'

It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.

Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy.

Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners.

There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'

Herein lies the problem:
There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included in 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED! There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.'

I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.

And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?

This has been recently exposed in the New York Times.

These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.

Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label wa rnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants.

The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioral symptoms.

The bill was killed.

It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're informed now!

"You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a victor without having victims."
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: fencerowphil (Phil L.) on June 17, 2008, 10:09:19 PM
According to, this is the body of an e-mail, etc. which has turned
out to be a hoax.

You may want to check it out yourself at that site.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Faron on June 17, 2008, 10:12:22 PM
You might check out the migraine headache thread on the Health and Safety Board.  Aspertame is very bad stuff, at least for some people.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Don_Papenburg on June 17, 2008, 10:29:26 PM
Not for Monsanto, They have a drug to sell you just for the effects of aspertaime
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Riles on June 18, 2008, 08:39:53 AM
Easymoney, I'm guessing this wasn't your sister. Thanks for your concern, but you're only making the problem worse.

I get these things in the email all the time and I figure it's just the spammers trying to harvest valid email addresses. I strip the addresses off and reply with cool Internet stuff:
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: ely on June 18, 2008, 10:56:01 AM
hoax or not i dont know.
but i do know that i have an aunt that used to bring me a nissan pickup bed full of diet coke cans every month.
she went crazy(thats my diagnosis) for awhile. the docs tried medicating her and she just kept getting more strange. after a couple years of the chemical imbalance that was causing her problems(the doctors diag.) she stopped drinking the diet coke and within 2 months she was off all medication for her unexplainable mental problems.
thats just my story.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: flip on June 18, 2008, 01:29:52 PM
Nothing against Diet Coke but since I got off of drinking full strength soft drinks and switched to water, the occasional Diet Coke makes me feel terrible.  It is within 5-10 minutes I start getting a headache and feel ill.  There is something too it, just don't know quite what.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: sawguy21 on June 18, 2008, 01:35:05 PM
I never drink the diet sodas, find them too sweet. Actually, come to think of it, I have not a soda for months.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: OneWithWood on June 18, 2008, 01:37:31 PM
The closest I come to a diet drink, or any soda vor that matter, is a light barley pop  :)
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: LeeB on June 18, 2008, 02:04:44 PM
I'll stick to my water with a sqeeze of lime in it thank you.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: logwalker on June 18, 2008, 11:16:26 PM
Don't put that c**p in your body. My body is a temple..... 8)
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: leweee on June 19, 2008, 12:53:42 PM
mines more like a shrine........after the shriners convention. :o :D :D :D
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: jrokusek on June 20, 2008, 02:06:53 PM
Actually we had a secretary that drank so much Diet Coke that she got sick for quite some time.  She drank so much soda and so little water I'm guessing that was the issue.  Now that she's cut back of the coke she's in lots better shape.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Ron Wenrich on June 20, 2008, 09:54:31 PM
We have a guy at work that doesn't drink anything but Coke.  Its not the diet type, but he drinks at least a 6 pack at work.  He's always sucking on it.  He drinks several cases a week.

I had a doctor tell me that people with ADD like the sweet stuff as it soothes them down.  This guy may have it, as he does miss a lot of things.  That's why they made him a lumber grader.   :D
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: zopi on June 20, 2008, 10:04:03 PM
Scotch and spring for long as the spring ain't polluted...
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: sawguy21 on June 21, 2008, 12:47:28 AM
Ron, I once roomed with a guy like that. It was not pretty when he went into withdrawal. ::)
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Don P on June 21, 2008, 08:46:35 AM
I'm pretty sure the part about aspartame converting to trace amounts of methanol in our gut is correct. Methanol, wood alcohol, is the alcohol that will "kill your daddy and drive your mama stone blind". Our system encounters trace amounts of methanol from many sources and can handle it in small quantities. It is highly toxic in larger doses.

Are these people crying wolf, I don't know, I kind of doubt it. Everyone has different levels of sensitivity to different chemicals. I worked for years around mineral spirit fumes that caused several people to go to the doctor and eventually quit. I did sensitize to formaldehyde for some years after running the glue press, that seems to have finally worked its way out. I wouldn't rule it out if you feel bad and are sucking the stuff down.

If you are methanol poisoned an ethanol drunk is the fastest antidote.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: fencerowphil (Phil L.) on June 21, 2008, 05:00:31 PM
And now one would pose the question...

Which would make you feel worse,   the side effects of trace Methanol
                                                       or a roaring hangover from voluuuuminus ETHANOL?

Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Toolman on June 23, 2008, 06:30:04 PM
I have'nt drank a soda in over 5 yrs. I discovered I am allergic to aspartamine. I get severe stomach aches and gas that would probably show impressive numbers on a decibel meter. I've read a considerable amount of medical studies and have come to the conclusion this is just out right poison. I get the same reaction with splenda also. Again, poison, just different chemical makeup. I feel raw sugar or natural fructose(fruits) and honey are the safest ways to satisfy a sweet tooth.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: Don P on June 23, 2008, 06:48:07 PM
I'm not sure that diet drinks are worse than sweet drinks though. 2 cokes a day equals about 80 pounds of sugar per year.
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: jrokusek on June 23, 2008, 10:30:26 PM
I'm not sure that diet drinks are worse than sweet drinks though. 2 cokes a day equals about 80 pounds of sugar per year.

True.  Also, that sugar in Coke and other soft drinks is corn sugar which isn't as sweet as table sugar. needs lots more of it to get that "sweet" taste.  It does have a different feel in your mouth too.  I use corn sugar when bottling homebrew beer.  You get the good carbonation but not a lot of sweet taste in the beer!
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: DR_Buck on June 23, 2008, 11:20:00 PM
I too would rather not see this internet lore crapola kind of topics on the forum.  Way to much in the email everyday already.  Keep it there.

My vote is -----WOODSHED
Title: Re: diet drinks
Post by: isawlogs on June 24, 2008, 10:41:09 PM

 Well I am sorry to have to disagry with ya Buck , I for one like reading about topics that are not related to wood in any way or form . In this case I already new that those sweeteners cannot be good for ya. Maybe someone else did not , who are we to dreprive them of the info .  :-\
 Reading all topics is not a requirement on the forum , if one dont suite you , ya can skip it  ;) There are many that I skip ...  SSSSnnnakes for one . ;D I hate snakes .... really hate them .  :o  Never a misse if I see one , I jump back  >:( Hate um.