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Title: echo
Post by: Glenn on January 17, 2013, 12:03:47 PM
I was in at my local repair shop - very small shop.  He sells echo.  I gave them a very good look over and was very impressed.  Good balance, nice controls, actual toggle switch for on/off, extra handle pump oiler on largest model and they sit flat on the ground.  Come with a 5 year warranty too.  I think i'm going to try one for my next saw this summer ! 
Title: Re: echo
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on January 17, 2013, 02:03:41 PM
I am very satisfied with my cs600p
Pete
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Post by: old 030 on January 17, 2013, 04:56:37 PM
i love my 600p as well, great saw popcorn_smiley
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Post by: thecfarm on January 17, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
If it's half as good as my 25 year old trimmer,it would be a good one. I only replaced the whole starter thing last year. I use that poor thing alot too. No big deal for me to go through 2-3-4 tanks of gas with it.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: ladylake on January 18, 2013, 05:00:03 AM
 
 Just make sure he pulls the limiter caps and tunes your new saw before you use it, using the gas you use.  A lot of new saws come set too lean.  What model are you thinking of, the CS400  CS500  and CS600 are all real nice saws.  The muff on the CS400 is really choked up , cuts way faster when opened up.  I think the CS500 and CS600 are good as they come.  Out of my 30 or so saws the CS400 muff modd is my favorite around the mill, cuts fast, handles great and starts on the 1st pull without the choke even after sitting quite a while.    Steve
Title: Re: echo
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 18, 2013, 06:25:13 AM
Echo is just as good as the rest of the big brands.
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Post by: ALWOL on January 18, 2013, 10:22:37 AM
   I am very happy with my new cs 600 also. With the muffler opened up and carb worked over it will run circles around a 360 Stihl. The best part about it is the reliability. Never have to pull the rope more than twice and its running.
 

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Title: Re: echo
Post by: Al_Smith on January 18, 2013, 11:46:09 AM
They've made some decent saws and like the rest some that were not .

I've got an Echo hedge trimmer that I think may have came over on the Mayflower .It needs some attention but when it takes a notion to run it does very well .Otherwise the hedges get trimmed with a Stihl 200T which also does a good job .I think though I could eliminate the hedge pruning  with a stout chain and my old Oliver Crawler without much effort .They make a nice bon fire after they dry a little .
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Post by: SwampDonkey on January 18, 2013, 03:00:11 PM
Yeah, but it's awfully cold out there in the dog house this time of year. ;D
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Post by: JuniperBoss on January 18, 2013, 03:15:08 PM
I LOVE the looks of the Echo saws. I don't have a dealer within 60 miles, so I would have to be going out on a limb buying one. If it ever broke, I'd have to try to fix it myself or junk it (I don't think repair shops will fix them around here either). But, the small Echos are pretty cheap, so I could buy two Echo saws for the price of one Professional Stihl saw.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: beenthere on January 18, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
Quote
I LOVE the looks

Is it the red?
Title: Re: echo
Post by: JuniperBoss on January 18, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
What I meant was that I like the features. Low-vibe, easy starting, good balance/handling, this is what I mean. It could be painted brown, I don't care.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: shinnlinger on January 18, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
HD has the 400 for $300 and the 600 for $550 as a point of reference.  If a local dealer has them I would of course buy thru them even if it was a little more but if no locals have it that is the way to go.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on January 18, 2013, 04:43:40 PM
The only issue I have with my 600 is with the chain tension.
I have to tighten every tank of gas.
I did the limiter cap removal as soon as I got the saw out of the box
I bought mine on line for just under 400.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: JuniperBoss on January 18, 2013, 05:14:35 PM
Do the smaller "limbing" Echos last with full-time use?
Title: Re: echo
Post by: trapper on January 18, 2013, 11:40:38 PM
I am satisfied with my cs670. 
Title: Re: echo
Post by: cuterz on January 19, 2013, 02:20:09 AM
Echo's are very nice saws I like the ones I have.
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Post by: scully on January 19, 2013, 08:05:30 AM
from what I have seen personaly I would buy 1 without question . They seem to be a well thought out design .
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Post by: sawguy21 on January 19, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
I have sold and serviced small engines, have always liked Echo products. I really don't think they get the respect they deserve. I have a trimmer I bought six years ago not running at a garage sale for ten bucks. A carb kit and starter rope was all it wanted.
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Post by: Knute on January 19, 2013, 07:25:57 PM
The 600 seems to have very good reviews. Does anyone have an opinion on the 680?
Title: Re: echo
Post by: Glenn on January 20, 2013, 12:40:55 AM
I think it was the 680 i was looking at.  It was the largest the make so far with a rumour of a larger one soon.  I like the little extra strength in the handle on this model and the balance was just right.  Going for around $800 here in Ontario.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: arlostone on January 26, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
i have a kioritz echo cs 351 evl from 1972 that a fella gave me has japanese lettering on gas and oil caps good antivibe,non restricted muffler,50cc,looks to be pro grade,and this saw rips.so echo has been doing it awhile.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: cuterz on January 26, 2013, 09:42:21 PM
Echo's are very good saws.
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Post by: DanG on January 26, 2013, 11:53:24 PM
I have a 670 and a 300.  I've had both of them for over ten years and have been well satisfied.  The 670 pulls its 32" bar quite well and the little 300 is the best little limbing saw I've ever used.  Both of them have been very dependable with few issues.
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Post by: JuniperBoss on January 27, 2013, 01:27:15 AM
Good. Maybe it's time to get one :).
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Post by: NCFarmboy on January 27, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
Good. Maybe it's time to get one :).
CS600P x2.  Get one you will love it.  CS400 and CS500 are next maybe a CS550 too.  Very underrated saws.  Along with the Efco brand.   Efco was BBFTB now I believe it's The Echo saws.
Shep
Title: Re: echo
Post by: ladylake on January 27, 2013, 09:17:47 PM

 I'll be the first to ask, what does BBFTB mean...   Seems like the only people that knock Echo saws are the ones that haven't run them  .    Steve
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Post by: shinnlinger on January 27, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
Best Bang For The Buck is my guess.....
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Post by: JuniperBoss on January 27, 2013, 09:24:43 PM

 I'll be the first to ask, what does BBFTB mean...   Seems like the only people that knock Echo saws are the ones that haven't run them  .    Steve
I was confused about what BBFTB meant too.
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Post by: ladylake on January 28, 2013, 05:47:46 AM

 I'd agree BBFTB, If you can work on a saw, tune them and don't mind buying off Ebay you can get a brand new CS400 for about $225  and a new CS600  for a little over $400.   The best buys on saws out there right now.   Also Echo parts are reasonable.   Steve
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Post by: NCFarmboy on January 28, 2013, 08:10:14 AM
Best Bang For The Buck is my guess.....
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Best Bang For The Buck is my guess.....
That is correct.  I picked my 2 CS600P's in factory sealed boxes on Ebay for $369 avg. inc. shipping.  Be patient bid often.  Where can you buy a pro grade 60cc saw for less. 
Shep
Title: Re: echo
Post by: bama20a on February 03, 2013, 12:43:10 PM
The only issue I have with my 600 is with the chain tension.
I have to tighten every tank of gas.
I did the limiter cap removal as soon as I got the saw out of the box
I bought mine on line for just under 400.
I know this post is alittle ol' (Like Me ;D),But Pete what are you talking about Limiter Cap,I sure don't know alot about saws,As you can tell :D Mark,,,,,,
Title: Re: echo
Post by: sawguy21 on February 03, 2013, 12:48:17 PM
They are installed over the carburetor adjusting screws to  keep us from tuning for power instead of minimum emissions. Some scofflaws remove them. ;)
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Post by: sharkey on February 08, 2013, 09:28:28 AM
I have a couple of the Echo saws and like them.  One thing about them is they always start.  The 680 is a modernized 670.  Theyre using different cylinder porting and a ventilated piston for better torque.  50 x 34mm bore and stroke.  The 670 used a two thin ring (1.2mm) piston whereas the 680 uses one single 1.5mm thick ring.  Both 670 and 680 use Walbro HDA style carbs.  Like Steve pointed out they always are sent out very lean from the factory.  I dont think they use ethanol fuel when they set them up initially and that is why it is important to have them re-tuned with the blend of gas for your area.  A muffler mod and your on your way to having a very reliable machine.     
Title: Re: echo
Post by: jackfork on March 06, 2013, 10:41:59 PM
Currently my biggest saw is a CS-680 with a 24 inch bar. One of the best saws I have ever had.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: ladylake on March 07, 2013, 06:49:27 AM

 Seems like almost everyone that has run a well tuned Echo saw likes them, only the ones wearing Stihl or Husky blinders don't like them.   Steve
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Post by: David-L on March 07, 2013, 07:13:27 AM
When buying a new saw recently I was going to buy a big Shinidaiwa, no longer made and bought by Echo I was told. Is that true.
                                     David
Title: Re: echo
Post by: ladylake on March 07, 2013, 09:16:51 AM

 Yes it's true.   Steve
Title: Re: echo
Post by: beenthere on March 07, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
ladylake
Not sure who has the blinders, reading often how you do not like Stihl.  ;D

But I've no earthly reason to switch from the very fine performance I've had from my Stihl saws and my Stihl dealer. So... I'm for sure blind to using any other brand no matter how good they might be.
Not going to buy another brand just to find out either.  :snowball: :snowball:  ;D

I'll yield to those who own the Echo saws and gladly listen how they like them.

I wouldn't be happy if I learned that Stihl suddenly was sold out or bought up by another company and the brand wasn't the same. Stihl has been pretty solid all along, and it keeps them on top but it helps to have good competition.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: trapper on March 07, 2013, 10:25:16 AM
my dealer who is top notch caries both stihl and echo. smaller saws ms250 and ms290 I have  stihl.  When I wanted a larger saw he steered me to a cs670 as a better value for my situation but I only cut firewood for my self. I am very happy with all 3.
Title: Re: echo
Post by: ladylake on March 07, 2013, 07:35:26 PM
ladylake
Not sure who has the blinders, reading often how you do not like Stihl.  ;D

But I've no earthly reason to switch from the very fine performance I've had from my Stihl saws and my Stihl dealer. So... I'm for sure blind to using any other brand no matter how good they might be.
Not going to buy another brand just to find out either.  :snowball: :snowball:  ;D

I'll yield to those who own the Echo saws and gladly listen how they like them.

I wouldn't be happy if I learned that Stihl suddenly was sold out or bought up by another company and the brand wasn't the same. Stihl has been pretty solid all along, and it keeps them on top but it helps to have good competition.

 Nothing against Stihl pro saws except the price and parts price, the homeowner ones don't have the quality or performance of the same sized Echo saws yet cost about the same plus Echo saws are easy to work compared to the lower Stihl saws, Stihl pro saws are easy to work on also.  Dolmars are also nice well built saws but are getting more spendy than they used to be.  I have a 7900 here that cost $570 new when they first came out, has to be one of the best power to wieght saws out there and built good.  Steve
Title: Re: echo
Post by: ALWOL on March 07, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
   Well I must admit that I had the "Stihl blinders" on, up until a couple of years ago. I got talked into trying out a new CS600, and I kinda liked it. After buying my own this year, I have found that I like it even better than my 360 Stihl. When it comes to total "value" I think the Echo has the Stihl beat.

   Alan
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Post by: tbone0106 on March 21, 2013, 02:13:10 PM
My favorite small saw ever is my Echo CS-315. Yeah, it's forty years old, but it starts with three pulls (not bad for a saw with the fuel tank at the front of the case...) and the balance and compactness are excellent!

However, that little nylon "fuel pipe connector" recently broke on mine. Anybody know where I might find one? P/N 132 011-1123 0
Title: Re: echo
Post by: beenthere on March 21, 2013, 02:25:05 PM
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