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WM accuset issues or not?

Started by delvis, October 10, 2013, 07:53:12 PM

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Are you guys factoring in the 1/16 pull down when setting the height.   Steve
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Tom the Sawyer

Just a thought, if all of your boards are of a consistent thickness until the bottom board and it is off 1/16 across its width, it is possible that a mechanical stop or binding is causing the head to stop unevenly and cause your problem?
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rmack

I would guess that whenever you enter pattern mode, accuset starts counting from the bottom up, and if there is a kerf width issue it would probably be further up the stack.

I have had issues with my accuset from the beginning, lately when in manual mode and trying to set at a specific height I often get fairly close and then have to jog up or down to get it to the exact height. sometimes I can see the head move, but no movement registers on the accuset.

far as different width boards, mine are generally quite a bit thick on the bottom board, but it's hard to tell exactly how much because of all the waves that just wont go away.

when I take a board out of a pile and put it on the mill to plane it down the blade always cuts noticeably deeper on the fixed roller side of the board. I have checked all my alignment measurements, don't know why the orientation of the saw moves so much with the saw engaged.
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red hairs are thick
brown hairs are medium
blond hairs are thin
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Quote from: woodmills1 on October 11, 2013, 06:10:34 PM
red hairs are thick
brown hairs are medium
blond hairs are thin

I measured em once on a dare and bet with micrometer. Reds can be the thickest or the the thinnest browns and blacks tend to be the thick ones blondes and reds thinner but thinnest I measured was a red one and don't ask how I got them.
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woodmills1

or where they came from

some reds from some places wow thick
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jcbrotz



GMM, I see what you're saying now.  I have been looking at it backward, thinking the mill was measuring from 12" down and not from the bed up.  I wonder why the Accuset doesn't have a 1" calibration setting considering this.
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Because if you set the 12inch at a true 12 and the gain factor is correct then the 1 inch will be 1 inch. My gain changed on the fly one day why who knows but a call to Woodmizer found the problem. IF it is a wavy board or thick on one side or the other like some people have problems with, then it is an alignment/blade issue. I would say go by the book and do an alignment and see if the problem goes away. Also use a square to set the 12 inches not a tape as it only takes a little bit of lean to make an issue.  Also at 1/8 low you are really really close to the holding blocks I would have hit them on my mill by now a little bit wander and you are hitting them mine are just over 3/4 above the bunks.
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delvis

Quote from: Tom the Sawyer on October 11, 2013, 09:01:57 AM
Just a thought, if all of your boards are of a consistent thickness until the bottom board and it is off 1/16 across its width, it is possible that a mechanical stop or binding is causing the head to stop unevenly and cause your problem?

I don't believe it is binding anywhere and the reason the non driven side is a 1/16" higher is because that is what WM has for the alignment of the cantilevered head.  We try to keep the mill cleaned out as we are using it and all the sawdust is blown out at the end of every day, so unless there is something I am not seeing, I don't think that is the cause.
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delvis

Quote from: rmack on October 11, 2013, 10:27:13 AM
I would guess that whenever you enter pattern mode, accuset starts counting from the bottom up, and if there is a kerf width issue it would probably be further up the stack.

I have had issues with my accuset from the beginning, lately when in manual mode and trying to set at a specific height I often get fairly close and then have to jog up or down to get it to the exact height. sometimes I can see the head move, but no movement registers on the accuset.

far as different width boards, mine are generally quite a bit thick on the bottom board, but it's hard to tell exactly how much because of all the waves that just wont go away.

when I take a board out of a pile and put it on the mill to plane it down the blade always cuts noticeably deeper on the fixed roller side of the board. I have checked all my alignment measurements, don't know why the orientation of the saw moves so much with the saw engaged.

If you're getting little waves that look like a ridged potato chip, it could be that you're not feeding the head fast enough.  Every time I see those waves I need to speed up the feed a bit to make them go away.  That is with the standard 7 degree blade.
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