New 27",32" Saw

[woodweasel]

 I have an LT35 mill, from time to time customers want me to cut down trees.
I have an echo 20''(not sure what model). I want a longer bar. Will a 27" make a
big difference falling larger trees, or should I spend the big $$ for a 32" or 36" bar? ??? ??? Woodweasel

[Maine logger88]

How many cc is the saw it takes quite a bit of power to run a long bar like that

[celliott]

With a 20" bar you can cut twice the usable bar length. If you're skilled with a saw, you can do up to 3 times the usable bar length.

If you're encountering alot of 36"+ trees, it might be time to look into a heavy duty saw like an MS660 or 395XP or similar.
If not, keep a sharp chain and use all of your bar, it can be done.

[woodweasel]

Guess  Im not that skilled at it then.So the 27'' would definitely make it quicker
than the 20". I want to get it on the ground as quickly & safely as possible.I make my money on the mill. Im not really in the logging or tree felling business.Although I do quite a bit for myself. Im looking hard at the Echo CS 680.  27" bar,66.8 cc engine.Anybody have or used one of these models ??? ???

[Maine logger88]

I have no experience with that model but 66cc should pull a long bar like that fine

[Andyshine77]

Guess  Im not that skilled at it then.So the 27'' would definitely make it quicker
than the 20". I want to get it on the ground as quickly & safely as possible.I make my money on the mill. Im not really in the logging or tree felling business.Although I do quite a bit for myself. Im looking hard at the Echo CS 680.  27" bar,66.8 cc engine.Anybody have or used one of these models ??? ???

27" is the upper end for a cs680, not the most powerful saw for it's cc's. If you want to run a 28" bar regularly, you want something with more power IMHO. 28" bar in hardwood is 70+cc Territory, I like at least 75cc or better for that size bar. If you have the cash and want to save time, look at a Husqvarna 390xp, or a Stihl MS461/MS660. The 395xp is a great saw, but quite heavy and a 390 will pull about the same up to 32" or so.

You always want to run the shortest bar you can, it helps save the saw and yourself.   

[woodweasel]

 Thanks guys ;D ;D

[Al_Smith]

Well I suppose you could fall a 3 foot diameter red oak with  Mini Mac if that's all you had .You might be at it for a while though .

I have no idea about the saw but keep in mind while it might have enough power they often don't have an oiling system capable of supplying enough bar lubrication .

Generally speaking you can drop a fairly good sized tree with a 20" bar .Of course if you lived on the west coast with those giant Douglas firs and coast redwods that might prove to be wrong .Then again if you were a west coast faller the question wouldn't have been mentioned in the first place.

[SawTroll]

Guess  Im not that skilled at it then.So the 27'' would definitely make it quicker
than the 20". I want to get it on the ground as quickly & safely as possible.I make my money on the mill. Im not really in the logging or tree felling business.Although I do quite a bit for myself. Im looking hard at the Echo CS 680.  27" bar,66.8 cc engine.Anybody have or used one of these models ??? ???

27" is the upper end for a cs680, not the most powerful saw for it's cc's. If you want to run a 28" bar regularly, you want something with more power IMHO. 28" bar in hardwood is 70+cc Territory, I like at least 75cc or better for that size bar. If you have the cash and want to save time, look at a Husqvarna 390xp, or a Stihl MS461/MS660. The 395xp is a great saw, but quite heavy and a 390 will pull about the same up to 32" or so.

You always want to run the shortest bar you can, it helps save the saw and yourself.   

Yes, upper end and then some....

[Dave Shepard]

I'm running a 32" on a Husky 66. I use full skip chain, and it works ok, but it is pushing it for power. I would definitely be running a larger saw, if I had one that ran. :D You also have to keep in mind that an extra foot of bar is much more unwieldy, and will be unbalanced on a smaller saw like that.

[woodweasel]

 Thanks again guys,As I said earlier I'm not a logger but, I can hold a snuff can under a bears ass for a little while  8) 8) ;D :D

[Dave Shepard]

We might need a Texas-English translation on that one. On second thought... :D

[woodweasel]

translated=  Dave said the longer bar will make the saw unbalanced. Which means its probably not going to be user friendly.I would not want to cut with
it all day long.But I could cut with it for a little while!! Therefore I couldnt hold a snuff can under a bears ass for a long period of time, while he tried to eat me alive! But I could do it for a little while ;D ;D There you are 8) ;D ;D

[John R]

We might need a Texas-English translation on that one. On second thought... :D

I like it! :D :D :D

[ladylake]

While  a Echo CS670 might not be a high RPM screamer they do have excellent torque which might handle a longer bar  better than the low torque screamers.  Steve