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Leveling a portable sawmill long term?

Started by Stevenjohn21, September 19, 2022, 08:30:55 PM

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Stevenjohn21

I have a 130max with the trailer which has 4 jacks on each side and I'm constantly having to adjust them to make everything level. The jacks are on concrete blocks which are on sandy soil.
  
I am thinking about pouring a concrete pad and then putting concrete anchors through the jack feet to keep everything solid since I don't plan on moving the mill. 
My question is, is the portable version notoriously harder to keep level? It seems the non portable version has a lot more leveling feet so it would be easier to make each bunk perfectly level. 
 If I pour a concrete pad I presume that will stop me having to constantly level it? 

kelLOGg

I had a 4" pad poured about 1.5 years ago and it has held up nicely. Max dia log is 32" and 20' long. No cracks in the concrete when flipping cants. I added 5 supporting posts between the mill beams and concrete in addition to the sawmill legs. It holds level much better than legs alone. Pics are available on my gallery. 

Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

Stevenjohn21

I'd like to see your setup but it's not allowing me to view your gallery, maybe I'm too new!? 

kelLOGg

They weren't in my gallery after all but are now. 


 

 

 
Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

Walnut Beast


jpassardi

I have 6 - 12 x 12 oak timbers set parallel to the cross bunks which stays level for me. You'll want enough surface area to prevent pushing/vibrating them into the soil.
I put them cross, not parallel to the bed so sawdust, bark, etc can be removed/blown out.
LT15 W/Trailer, Log Turner, Power Feed & up/down
CAT 416 Backhoe W/ Self Built Hydraulic Thumb and Forks
Husky 372XP, 550XPG, 60, 50,   WM CBN Sharpener & Setter
40K # Excavator, Bobcat 763, Kubota RTV 900
Orlan Wood Gasification Boiler -Slab Disposer

Den-Den

Foundation requirements are very location specific. Shallow sandy soil over rock can not be compared to sandy surface with deep clay underneath.  Be wary of copying something that worked for others.
You may think that you can or may think you can't; either way, you are right.

jpassardi

At the end of the day you shouldn't exceed the bearing capacity of the soil. With true sand the engine vibrations can  have more of an impact on settlement also. Shock loads from dropping logs and turning cants must also be considered. You need enough area (dunnage size and quantity) in contact with the soil. It does not necessarily need to be a complete slab.
Sand and gravel actually have a higher bearing capacity than silts and clays and this is one reason they're preferred for foundations. They are approximately as follows:
Sand: 2000 PSF
Silt/Clay: 1500 PSF
Clay: 1000 PSF
In addition, sand and gravel are more permeable and less susceptible to frost as the water will drain more freely. I see you're in Georgia so this unlikely a concern.
If you want to pay for a slab, go for it. If you'd rather not, put large enough cribbing in contact with the soil.
LT15 W/Trailer, Log Turner, Power Feed & up/down
CAT 416 Backhoe W/ Self Built Hydraulic Thumb and Forks
Husky 372XP, 550XPG, 60, 50,   WM CBN Sharpener & Setter
40K # Excavator, Bobcat 763, Kubota RTV 900
Orlan Wood Gasification Boiler -Slab Disposer

Ljohnsaw

I have fine "moon dust" soil with large (football to kitchen table sized) rocks.  I put my mill on 8x8 wood pads (12 legs) and that worked for several years.  Then I loaded a 20,000 log (48" dia x 35' long) and several legs sunk.  So I pulled everything out, scraped back to good soil again and laid out 5x9x48" timbers.


 

 

 
All is good now.  If you look closely at the near leg on the left of the last picture, you can see where I drilled a hole just through the timber and drove a 3/4" foundation stake.  That holds the timber in place and keeps the mill from sliding sideways when loading logs.  I did that on each leg on the outsides of the mill.
John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

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Ford 545D FEL
Genie S45
Davis Little Monster backhoe
Case 16+4 Trencher
Home Built 42" capacity/36" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

Stevenjohn21

Quote from: Walnut Beast on September 20, 2022, 07:31:48 AM
Wheels off or deflated
Right now they are off because it was easier to level without them on. 

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