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Started by kkcomp, June 04, 2024, 08:21:03 PM

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kkcomp

Watched a Hobby Hardwood YouTube on how to deal with stress in a log. Wanted to post a picture of what I learned. If you happened to have seen the video you will recognize it. 
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YellowHammer

That's a great image, making very flat wood from a log with lots of stress.  When it dries, you can put a straight edge on it and have high value, dead flat, straight lumber.   

I have heard really good things about that Hobby Hardwood guy, I think some of the folks here may know him personally, but as I understand it, Chip, his dog is the real brains of the outfit.  Or maybe Martha.

They say he is even taller and more good looking in person. 

Anyway, great job!
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If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

barbender

 I hope he is better looking in person, pictures don't do him much justice😁
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Andries

I'll bet you could hear the groan coming out of Manitoba all the way down there in Alabama!
or...
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kkcomp

Quote from: YellowHammer on June 04, 2024, 10:14:07 PMThat's a great image, making very flat wood from a log with lots of stress.  When it dries, you can put a straight edge on it and have high value, dead flat, straight lumber.   

I have heard really good things about that Hobby Hardwood guy, I think some of the folks here may know him personally, but as I understand it, Chip, his dog is the real brains of the outfit.  Or maybe Martha.

They say he is even taller and more good looking in person. 

Anyway, great job!
If you watch the video you would agree Martha and Chip are in charge but not the good looking part but he sure knows his stuff about milling. Seriously, thanks for the videos. I have learned tons from you and so many others in this group. 
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jpassardi

Yeah - keep it up, I look forward to the videos Robert.

Anyone else notice how stressed out Chip gets?...  running-doggy
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Magicman

Chip has other ways of relieving his stress.  :thumbsup:
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YellowHammer

Poor ol' Chip was playing around in the backyard and skidded out and slammed into a brick step, got cut open on his leg, and got 7 staples.  He's on meds now, not feeling any stress at all.  
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Magicman

Did you just write that or is Howard now your screenwriter??  ffcheesy
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WV Sawmiller

   I thinks that's pretty cruel and disrespectful to make snide and hurtful comments to folks when a beloved family member has been injured and is rekooperatin. You know the whole fambly is hurtin right along with ol Chip. :veryangry:

   Robert, I hope ol Chip mends up real quick and complete. I look forward to seeing him investigation a sawdust pile and climbing up on the log pile again. :thumbsup:
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Magicman

Actually it was meant to be respectful and complimentary.   :thumbsup:    ffcheesy
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kkcomp

Sorry to hear about Chip. Guess Martha will have to spend twice as much time keeping you in line now.
Why is there never time to do it right but always time to do it over?
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DocGP

Chip is da bomb!!!

Prayers for a speedy recovery.

He must have seen an intruder and went into stealth/kill mode!!   ffcheesy ffcheesy

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YellowHammer

Chip was playing with my daughter's new puppy, chasing around the yard, and Chip, who can run like a greyhound, skidded out at top speed on the wet grass, and slammed into the bricks like a NASCAR hitting turn 3.  A pretty good impact. 

His arm got split open, no bones broken and peeled back like skinning a squirrel.  So a few staples later, he's milking it like the movie star he is, with meals in bed, lounging around, watching the Pet Channel on TV for the next couple week until the staples come out.   
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Magicman

Yikes !!!  Looks like RR tracks.  :shocked2:
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JD Guy

Poor Chip  :veryangry: Does he have to wear a collar to prevent him from chewing on the wound?

Jeff

I can change my profile okay. No errors. If you can,t remove all the extra info in other fields and try.

YellowHammer

No, Chip doesn't have to wear a collar, if he gets to licking it, we put a bandage on it, but the vet said it was best to leave it open to the air.

It is aggravating Chip that he can't go swimming, we go to the pond pretty much every day in the summer, but we have had to cut that out because he wants to jump in and swim around.

So now he just mopes around and tells me what I'm doing wrong with the mill.  
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

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Luckily you can't keep a good dog down. heal up fast ,buddy!
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jpassardi

That is quite a cut.

Poor Chip: now he'll have to spend the work day laying on the UTV seat...  ffcheesy
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Machinebuilder

I feel for Chip, and Robert and Martha for having to deal with keeping him healing well.

I also appreciate the videos, i have rewatched them  several times and am learening as i try to apply the principles.

I was cutting some white oak for a friends trailer and managed to get some of the boards to crook instead of bow :wacky:

I can honestly say I have not forgotten to lower my toeboard.............................only because its a small piece of board I edge under the log.
they fall out when I roll the log.

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YellowHammer

Thanks, I appreciate all the well wishes for Chip and I appreciate people watching the videos.  

Lumber stress, and how to deal with it, is well known and talked about a good deal on this Forum, but in the non Forum world, it's amazing how many sawyers have no clue about it.  I know because we get customers who have gotten local sawyers to mill their wood which ends up looking like a boat propeller.  The customers get upset, do internet searches and then watch some of my videos and come in to tell me they had no idea, and neither did the guy sawing their logs.

The most common phrase people are told by sawyers when their logs are turned into McDonalds arches is "the wood is just gonna do what the wood wants to do."  Nope.
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Digger Don

Once again, I ask that everyone pardon my ignorance, but how do you know the log has stress in it? Is it just because it's not straight? Compression on the inside of the curve and tension on the outside? If I cut it down, I could figure out where the stress is, but what about the log that shows up, and I know nothing about it's history. I admit to being one of those who have said the wood is gonna do what it wants. Because I didn't know any better. I still don't, but hope to change that very soon.

Due to my low data limit, I'm not able to watch many videos. But, my best wishes go to Chip. Good luck keeping him on the couch until he heals.
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DocGP

My limited experience,  almost all wood has stress.   The key is learning to recognize and deal with it.   About THAT I still have much to learn.

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Magicman

Quote from: Digger Don on June 06, 2024, 10:14:47 AMI ask that everyone pardon my ignorance, but how do you know the log has stress in it?
I see no ignorance in your very legitimate question.  We all have fairly different markets so we handle the stress to better accommodate our customer's cut list whether that customer is ourselves or another person.

Mine is certainly different from virtually everyone else because 90%+ of my sawing is SYP for framing lumber.  That being said, I can accept bow but not crook, so I almost always saw through from either the hump or horn faces of a log.  Yes, some logs have sweep on more than one face, so I look, turn, saw, and move one to the next log. Opening Face LINK
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