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ErikC

Quote from: Raider Bill on February 16, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: ErikC on February 16, 2009, 11:30:38 AM
Quote from: Cedarman on February 16, 2009, 08:06:57 AM
Let's try it in California first.  Sorry, don't mean to make you Californians mad.  Maybe the southern 1/2 of the state.

Marijuana is already legalized here, the whole state. For medical use only of course. It conflicts with Federal Law, but little is done to stop it other than huge Cartel farms. Now we are overrun with people buying land and growing weed to make money and not work for a living. I don't see that it's solved anything yet. I see a few problems it has created though. And DanG is right, compared to other drugs it is fairly harmless, but the longer people use it the more it affects their productivity. It takes a while but it will drag people completely down. Meth will drag them down in a few months instead of years.

CNBC just had a good special on Medicino co in Ca and the weed trade there. If not for weed growing the county would be bankrupt.

Trinity, humboldt, and mendicino counties are the center of the universe for this stuff. I read that article too, it was pretty accurate.
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Polly

you all know uncle sam ant going to do nothing about drugs but blow  ::)  to mutch money envolved :D :D 8)

Raider Bill

Quote from: Polly on February 16, 2009, 10:49:08 PM
you all know uncle SAM ant going to do nothing about drugs but blow  ::)  to mutch money envolved :D :D 8)

And there you have it! 60% of drug interdiction money goes to weed. 40% to the hard stuff.
Look how much the DEA, local and state PD's will lose if legalization of pot went through. Jails would lose population thus saving taxpayers money but taking it away from those that prosper.

I say take all that savings and go after the hard stuff and illegals with a vengance.
Quote from: CLL on February 16, 2009, 08:59:56 PM
DanG, since I'm a war monger(or so I've been told) I think I could slow down the flow of illegal immigrants to a trickle. I need about 5000 other war mongers and keep the civil liberties and other do gooders away from me. Once word got around, cross the border and die, it would slow.
I realize that could never happen, but I also realize that its crap that people run across the border have kids and their US citizens, thats entirely wrong! It's also wrong for us to have to provide spanish speaking teachers in schools, learn to speak english or go home, when we go to other nations they don't provide someone thats speaks english for us. When our ancestors arrived at Ellis Island they had to learn english to become citizens, I think that should still be a qualification. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, just be PROUD of being an AMERICAN.

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Tom_in_Mo.

looks like you only have 4998 to go. me too. I thought about changing my name to grand torino  ;)

Raider Bill

I watched gran torino the other day, clint is getting old!
In the old days he would have head shot all 8 bad guys with his 6 gun without even reloading.
The First 72 years of childhood is always the hardest.
My advice on aging gracefully... ride fast bikes and date faster women, drink good tequila, practice your draw daily, be honest and fair in your dealings, but suffer not fools. Eat a hearty breakfast, and remember, ALL politicians are crooks.

Polly

i wnow the good lord loves me aside from that does anyone know anything encouring going on right now with ecomy :( ::) ::)

Radar67

Fishing is at an all time high here. Every where I turn, someone has a hook wet in any mudhole they can find.  ;)
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old joe

friends,
     I spent nearly 20 years in federal law enforcement.  I believe we will never stop drugs at the border.  WE need to stop OR CONTROL the market.  Legalise and tax DRUGS   spend the proceeds to reeducate the druggies  Nothing wrong with secure borders, but extraordinary profit potential and nearly unlimited funds will turn that fence into a sieve
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Polly

why not annex mexico, tear down the so called fence ,give them mexicans a ss card and let them pay taxes like the rest of us tax starved people it would not take long till they would revolt and start going to south america and our problems supposedly be solved  ::) ::) :D

TexasTimbers

Quote from: old joe on February 18, 2009, 06:12:44 PM
friends,
     I spent nearly 20 years in federal law enforcement.  I believe we will never stop drugs at the border.  WE need to stop OR CONTROL the market.  Legalise and tax DRUGS   spend the proceeds to reeducate the druggies  Nothing wrong with secure borders, but extraordinary profit potential and nearly unlimited funds will turn that fence into a sieve

Joe, you know better than me and any other armchair general you guys never had the tools, manpower, funds, nor technology you needed to compete against those guys. They stay a step ahead because the "war" has NEVER been a priority in reality, only in political speak. ma

A river-length fence is not the solution. A fence should not be used as a barricade. It should be used as a funnel. Harsh, very non PC force should be used against the invaders that would serve as a deterrence that even the most motivated criminals would avoid. Concrete barricades used to funnel them to choke points would negate the need for sentry's sparsely strewn along  the entire length of the river.

We are dreaming correct? You are dreaming of drugs being distributed like candy and I am dreaming of a country which actually protects itself as if it wants its culture and way of life (liberty) to survive. But of course we are giviing Miranda rights to enemies of war who have sworn death to us, so do I expect this government to actually try to be effective? No. But a man can dream.
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