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Started by labradorguy, November 20, 2021, 11:38:53 AM

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mike_belben

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labradorguy

He is a horse. Passed my stand last week at about 80 yards. I swear he looked like an elk...

Satamax

Quote from: sumday on November 23, 2021, 10:33:04 PM
I would say she is hiring you for a specific job that apparently is important to her. You made her aware of the potential value of the wood. She just wants her view. So give her what she wants and enjoy the extra profits. I've run into that occasionally where the customer just wants what they want and doesn't have an interest anything else.
In France, we have a saying; that i don't know if it exists in english. 
"A shroud has no pockets" 
French CD4 sawmill. Mecalac digger, with grapple. Self moving hydraulic boom crane. And a Brimont TL80 CSA.

sumday

If "shroud" is referring to a burial garment we do have sayings like " you can't take it with you" and "I've never seen a hearse with a trailer hitch" and so forth. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the saying...

Roundhouse

Quote from: Satamax on November 25, 2021, 12:55:51 AM

"A shroud has no pockets"
they don't put saddlebags on coffins, is how I've heard it around here.
Woodland Mills HM130, 1995 F350 7.3L, 1994 F350 flatbed/crane, 1988 F350 dump, Owatonna 770 rough terrain forklift, 1938 Allis-Chalmers reverse WC tractor loader, 1979 Ford CL340 Skid Steer, 1948 Allis-Chalmers B, 1988 Yamaha Moto-4 200, various chain saws

SwampDonkey

"Money's no object." :D Wish I could say that, and I never heard my father or grandfather ever say that either.

I watched a video yesterday that was just random suggestion and a young fella had 4 acres of land to clear and stump for goats. ;D He was told by family it would cost money in the end. He hired the right land clearing firm who paid him in the end over $800 for the wood sales after costs for the work were deducted. He had $6500 of pine on that lot besides what else.

Up this way I've never seen anyone yet give away wood or treat it like garbage. :D

Take away, you can't give it ($$) away sometimes. ;)
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2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Satamax

Quote from: Roundhouse on November 25, 2021, 10:10:58 PM
Quote from: Satamax on November 25, 2021, 12:55:51 AM

"A shroud has no pockets"
they don't put saddlebags on coffins, is how I've heard it around here.
Thanks a lot Roundhouse. Hey i didn't pay attention before, but we are from the same year!  ;D
French CD4 sawmill. Mecalac digger, with grapple. Self moving hydraulic boom crane. And a Brimont TL80 CSA.

Iwawoodwork

If their road to the top of the hill is gravel maybe a gift of a load of rock, that is something always needed and usually appreciated.

Blue Noser

Quote from: Stephen1 on November 20, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
I use the $1 per hour for every $1000 of equipment value and then I add my hourly rate.
So a Ponsse Scorpian King is worth $900/hr+? 
That's about 6-7x what it's worth per hour.

Stephen1

Quote from: Blue Noser on November 30, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Stephen1 on November 20, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
I use the $1 per hour for every $1000 of equipment value and then I add my hourly rate.
So a Ponsse Scorpian King is worth $900/hr+?
That's about 6-7x what it's worth per hour.
Im not sure what that machine is or it's cost to run? Help me out here. . If it is a machine that cost $900,000 to purchase that is probably what I would charge. 
IDRY Vacum Kiln, LT40HDWide, BMS250 sharpener/setter 742b Bobcat, TCM forklift, Sthil 026,038, 461. 1952 TEA Fergusan Tractor

Satamax

Quote from: Stephen1 on December 03, 2021, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Blue Noser on November 30, 2021, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Stephen1 on November 20, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
I use the $1 per hour for every $1000 of equipment value and then I add my hourly rate.
So a Ponsse Scorpian King is worth $900/hr+?
That's about 6-7x what it's worth per hour.
Im not sure what that machine is or it's cost to run? Help me out here. . If it is a machine that cost $900,000 to purchase that is probably what I would charge.
Quote from: Stephen1 on November 20, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
I use the $1 per hour for every $1000 of equipment value and then I add my hourly rate.


Stephen1, so you take the new price? Or the secondhand price, if you have a secondhand machine? 
That wouldn't make much on some of my machines!  :-\
French CD4 sawmill. Mecalac digger, with grapple. Self moving hydraulic boom crane. And a Brimont TL80 CSA.

Stephen1

Thats a good question? I only started using that policy in the last 3 years. It has definnitly put money in my bank account. Now I still have a beat up old pickup truck  with 400,000 + KLM on it that I use to haul my shiney new sawmill around with. I raised my rates this year to what a new pickup and new sawmill is worth as I see it is the only way I can afford to have a shiny new Truck. I hope if buisness carries on like it has in the last 3 years that I will get a new or newer pickup truck, or at least one with less klms on it. 
IDRY Vacum Kiln, LT40HDWide, BMS250 sharpener/setter 742b Bobcat, TCM forklift, Sthil 026,038, 461. 1952 TEA Fergusan Tractor

Satamax

Ok Stephen1 

Having mostly old stuff, I was wondering.  I admit I'm struggling to work with private owners. I'm working better with businesses. Some woodworker friends told me I was cheap. Some other people, that I was expensive. Mostly, if I do per day work. I charge 360€ a day. Whatever of my tools I have to get out. Otherwise I calculate 3x  to  4.25x the costs of materials,  or I try to estimate the time I will spend on it, and multiply material by 1.2 for roofing. 1.8 for general woodworking. When I saw on the sawmill, to make a balcony or else. I take other sawyers prices, and do the multiplying as explained above. 
French CD4 sawmill. Mecalac digger, with grapple. Self moving hydraulic boom crane. And a Brimont TL80 CSA.

Stephen1

Quote from: Satamax on December 04, 2021, 09:22:41 PM
Ok Stephen1

Having mostly old stuff, I was wondering.  I admit I'm struggling to work with private owners. I'm working better with businesses. Some woodworker friends told me I was cheap. Some other people, that I was expensive. Mostly, if I do per day work. I charge 360€ a day. Whatever of my tools I have to get out. Otherwise I calculate 3x  to  4.25x the costs of materials,  or I try to estimate the time I will spend on it, and multiply material by 1.2 for roofing. 1.8 for general woodworking. When I saw on the sawmill, to make a balcony or else. I take other sawyers prices, and do the multiplying as explained above.
I think the problems with private homeowners is the preice. $$$$ We do not want to charge more than we would pay ourselves. If that makes any sense. But lots of time our ideas of cost are older, quite a bit older. We have to look at today and what everything cost's and price accordingly. If I have to work for 360 a day then I am out of buisness. I need at least 750 a day. I do not put any exchange into anything. I figure each country has it's own value.  
IDRY Vacum Kiln, LT40HDWide, BMS250 sharpener/setter 742b Bobcat, TCM forklift, Sthil 026,038, 461. 1952 TEA Fergusan Tractor

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