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An Interesting Stump Vice

Started by lxskllr, July 04, 2019, 07:57:15 AM

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lxskllr

I was looking through the videos I previously downloaded, and randomly watched this...

Windwurf Holzschlag, Valposchiavo GR - YouTube

Jump to 2min for the 'stump vice'. I don't remember seeing that the first time I saw it. Kind of clever. It wouldn't replace sitting on the ground for me, but some of you might like it. It's also a decent video showing some sketchy windthrow removal.

teakwood

Switzerland!!

Good idea. that is some seriously dangerous work!!
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JohnW

Right, an interesting stump vice.

He did a pretty good job on those trees, and stayed out of the way.

Pine Ridge

That is a very clever idea for a stump vise. I would probably be under a rootball or have a smashed saw if that was me, that is dangerous work they are doing on steep ground.
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Ljohnsaw

Crazy!

Do you think they were just clearing or log recovery?  If it was log recovery, it seemed like they were leaving a lot on the "stump".
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Old Greenhorn

It sure looked like these were all wind-blown trees and they were doing log recovery. Based on the size and risk involved with those stumps, I think they were getting as close as they could and still have a 20% chance of survival if they read it wrong. I think if my boss sent me up there with the task of sending them down, after I did the first one or two close to the stump, I would be backing off 6-12 feet myself.
I just did a 20" dbh like this on flat ground 6 weeks ago and it was touchy enough. I can't imagine doing dozens of trees this size in that terrain. That's a high risk job for sure.
 EDIT: Oh yeah, and I like the stump vise, sharp guy. I may try this sometime. Just need a bolt. I have one of those 'hammer in' types, never even tried it.
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Ianab

Yeah, I wouldn't be standing close under the downhill side of those root balls either. That last 4 ft can stay where it is, or roll to the bottom of the Mt.  :o :D  Don't want my eulogy to include "At least he got all of that last log"
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Cruiser_79

When you talk about unpredictable  :o 
If you do that all day long you'll be glad you make it to the weekend for sure  :D  His stump vice is really clever, I will giveit a try some time

thecfarm

A clever idea. One less tool to carry. What a mess, sad to see.
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rubberfish

I agree. Great idea. I feel kind of silly now for buying a store bought vise.  :(
On the bright side I guess I'm helping keep the local economy going.  :laugh:
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Bob

livemusic

What came to my mind is that that fellow does not have a long life ahead. About as dangerous a job as there is. Surely there is a better way these days. Some type of boom gizmo.
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Bill

WV Sawmiller

   Interesting idea for the stump vice. I sharpen mine on the saw with one of those dremel tool type sharpeners from Oregon so I go to my ATV so I have 12v power.

    I cut 2 uprooted maples and a big uprooted basswood last Spring from winter ice and wind storms and I still have nightmares about it. I left an 8' log on the basswood and think about it sometimes but times haven't gotten hard enough for me to go back and try to collect it. I don't know what they are paying those loggers but it ain't enough! ;)
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teakwood

they earn around 6k a month. depending on how many years of experience they have
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Satamax

Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 04, 2019, 11:21:49 PM
It sure looked like these were all wind-blown trees 
Knowing that kind of terrain, it might be avalanche blown trees. Not that it changes anything. But wind blown in the mountains doesn't happen nearly as often. 
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Cruiser_79

Quote from: teakwood on July 08, 2019, 08:24:50 AM
they earn around 6k a month. depending on how many years of experience they have
Wow that isn't bad at all. Think I try to get as much experience as possible and move to Switzerland  :D

lxskllr

And hey, if it doesn't work out, you're still in Switzerland!  I don't see any way to lose, aside from dropping a tree on yourself. We don't need to worry about that  :^P

Real1shepherd

I don't think his bucking technique was very "safe" at all. Using one saw to cut out another stuck bar because he refuses to use wedges or relief cuts. Not seeing the wisdom he needs to be doing what he's doing......but I'm sure he thinks he's a 'pro'. Good luck, kid.....you'll need it.

Kevin

teakwood

He is a pro, you need to pass apprenticeship in Switzerland before they let you work on such a site. 3 years of study/work (1day school/4 days work per week) with older more experienced co workers and at the end of the 3 years a 3day long final exam, practice and theory.  every profession has that system in Switzerland, i did it as a construction worker, bricklayer. if you don't get that title you have value no for the industry  
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rubberfish

That's some serious training. Thanks for the info. I never would have guessed.
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Bob

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