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Started by booman, December 28, 2022, 02:45:20 PM

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booman

Has anyone tried building a hydraulic blade tensioner for the newer model LT15?  This model has the cam over tensioner.
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 I'd go with acme tread and a heavy spring that has some give to it.   Steve
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Percy

Sounds to me like you are designing a tensioner from scratch for your LT15 wide. Just a thought here but the airbag tensioner on my LT70 is pretty much flawless. Perhaps incorporate the airbag with the cam system already in place?? Air bag tensioners are pretty much set and forget compared to my old Lt40 tensioner. Just a thought.....
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Magicman

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booman

I was thinking of keeping the cam over lever but add a pressure gauge into the tensioning system.   Not sure if I would need to add a small hydraulic ram with a gauge on it.
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Crusarius

Just out of curiosity, whats wrong with the cam over tensioner?

booman

Really, nothing.   I like how quick it is and I have gotten used to the feel of what is the right tension.   Just wondering about repeating the tension exactly.
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Southside

I have the same system on my 35 and hardly every adjust it, works great.  
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booman

I see the hydraulic systems being cranked tight with a wrench of sorts and to loosen do just the opposite.   Looks slow.  I would like the accuracy of a hydraulic system with the speed of the cam over tightener.
2019 LT15G25WIDE, 2013 LT35HDG25, Stihl MS880 with 59" bar with Alaskan sawmill attachment.  John Deere 5045 tractor with forks, bucket and grapple.  Many chainsaws.

Crusarius

My hydraulic one works great but it is screw it in and screw it out. best part of it is having the gauge. I do constantly adjust while sawing. its surprising how much a band will stretch in the first 4' of a cut. I can lose 500 psi on the gauge almost immediately.

jpassardi

On my LT15 there is a rubber bushing that performs the same function as a spring. I would think yours is the same. The intent is to maintain nearly the same load (blade tension) as the blade expands and contracts with temperature change. It's a proper design, I would recommend not changing it.
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booman

I do like my present system, just thinking about adding a gauge.   Probably need hydraulics of some sort to do that.
2019 LT15G25WIDE, 2013 LT35HDG25, Stihl MS880 with 59" bar with Alaskan sawmill attachment.  John Deere 5045 tractor with forks, bucket and grapple.  Many chainsaws.

Crusarius


Magicman

Yup, Spring Scale LINK is what I was thinking.  It could be added in parallel to the actual blade tension.
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Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

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To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

booman

MM, I think I know what you are talking about.   Would that be accurate?   I guess as long as you go back to the same reading each time, it would be used as a reference point.
2019 LT15G25WIDE, 2013 LT35HDG25, Stihl MS880 with 59" bar with Alaskan sawmill attachment.  John Deere 5045 tractor with forks, bucket and grapple.  Many chainsaws.

Magicman

Yes, I noticed that Crusarius mentioned fish scale last night which was along the same line that I was thinking.

It would not matter what the scale read because you are only looking for a constant and reliable benchmark.  You just need a movable leg to attach to and a stationary anchor point.

98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

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