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bought a Wallenstein forwarding trailer; video

Started by woodman52, September 24, 2023, 07:43:33 PM

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woodman52

I recently bought a used Wallenstein LXT115 forwarding/logging trailer. For those of you who might be interested in smaller but not tiny forwarding trailers I thought my youtube video might be of interest. This is a trailer that can be used on the road or in the woods. I would say it would be best to use about a 40hp tractor or better. It can be used with something smaller, I have used my 25hp tractor and it worked OK but just. I am in the hills. It is narrow enough to get around the woods on 8' trails but big enough to do some real work. 10,000 lb capacity.

(314) Logging/forwarding trailer using a roadable woods self-loading trailer new to me Wallenstein LXT115 - YouTube
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stavebuyer

Very handy unit. Hydraulics appear more capable than I anticipated.

thecfarm

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g_man

Very nice unit Woodman - enjoyed your video and good job showing it off !!

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woodman52

Quote from: stavebuyer on September 25, 2023, 02:26:36 AM
Very handy unit. Hydraulics appear more capable than I anticipated.
I haven't tried to pick up something it wouldn't yet. The biggest log I've tried is an 8.5 ft 22 inch cherry. I dragged it pretty close before picking it up but it had no problem. If it was a 12 footer I don't know if it would have. I do intend to use it for saw logs so I am sure I will have stuff to big for it.  In that case I will use my Farmi winch like I have been. 
Cooks HD3238 mill, loader tractor +, small wood processor, Farmi 501 winch, Wallenstein LX115 forwarding trailer, 60 ac hardwood, certified tree farm

Andries

Woodman; you have a beautiful woodlot and wide trails.
Have you considered a slide-in receiver for a trailer hitch on your Farmi winch? It wouldn't take much metalwork.
You could then take both winch and trailer out into the woods and return with a bigger load than just  skidding out. It saves the trip back to bring your logs to the landing.
I think that @Peter Drouin has/had a setup like that a few years ago.
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Nice video, enjoyed it, and great forwarding trailer.
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woodman52

Quote from: Andries on September 25, 2023, 12:28:44 PM
Woodman; you have a beautiful woodlot and wide trails.
Have you considered a slide-in receiver for a trailer hitch on your Farmi winch? It wouldn't take much metalwork.
You could then take both winch and trailer out into the woods and return with a bigger load than just  skidding out. It saves the trip back to bring your logs to the landing.
I think that @Peter Drouin has/had a setup like that a few years ago.
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Nice video, enjoyed it, and great forwarding trailer.
I have considered that. And I may do it. Right now I have enough trees down and topped that I can spend a day pulling to the trails. Then spend several days with the trailer bucking and forwarding the logs out. Then do it over again. So no extra trips. I am retired and try to only work hard 4 to 6 hours a day. Then I work on lighter stuff. 
Cooks HD3238 mill, loader tractor +, small wood processor, Farmi 501 winch, Wallenstein LX115 forwarding trailer, 60 ac hardwood, certified tree farm

PoginyHill

I will connect my forwarding trailer to my Wallenstein winch. It works well. Only downside is it makes maneuvering in the woods more of a challenge  and since the hitch point is further away from the rear axle, can make the front end a little light with a full load. Hooking up on this video starts at the 13:22 mark.

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mudfarmer

Very cool, congrats! Have you found the ball hitch to be an issue at all? I would think a trailer like this would have a pintle setup and was surprised. Another thought is that you need a Spencer tape or similar, money well spent to avoid the aggravation of a carpenter tape    :-\
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woodman52

Quote from: mudfarmer on September 25, 2023, 07:51:28 PM
Very cool, congrats! Have you found the ball hitch to be an issue at all? I would think a trailer like this would have a pintle setup and was surprised. Another thought is that you need a Spencer tape or similar, money well spent to avoid the aggravation of a carpenter tape    :-\
One of the first things I did was to switch to a pintle hook. It comes with a setup to attach to a drawbar but I don't have a drawbar. Plus I wanted to be able to switch between my truck and tractor easily and I had a pintle setup for the tractors already.
I have a Spencer tape,  just not with me that time. I thought since I was just making short measurements the carpenter tape would be fine. For most logs it was, but enough of a pain on others, I will switch to the Spencer. 
Cooks HD3238 mill, loader tractor +, small wood processor, Farmi 501 winch, Wallenstein LX115 forwarding trailer, 60 ac hardwood, certified tree farm

78NHTFY

woodsman 52--excellent addition!  You will love it....just make sure not to overload on hilly terrain.  Bigger tractor the better: I have 70 HP which is barely enough when my PATU is fully loaded.  All the best, Rob


 
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g_man

Quote from: woodman52 on September 26, 2023, 09:04:55 AM
Quote from: mudfarmer on September 25, 2023, 07:51:28 PM
Very cool, congrats! Have you found the ball hitch to be an issue at all? I would think a trailer like this would have a pintle setup and was surprised. Another thought is that you need a Spencer tape or similar, money well spent to avoid the aggravation of a carpenter tape    :-\
One of the first things I did was to switch to a pintle hook. It comes with a setup to attach to a drawbar but I don't have a drawbar. Plus I wanted to be able to switch between my truck and tractor easily and I had a pintle setup for the tractors already.
I have a Spencer tape,  just not with me that time. I thought since I was just making short measurements the carpenter tape would be fine. For most logs it was, but enough of a pain on others, I will switch to the Spencer.
If you have rough terrain with abrupt changes a pintle is the way to go. I have a small dump trailer with an arm-strong loader I use as a forwarder.


 
It has rotating draw bar hitch


 
I found right off that I needed flex in both planes and made the adapter you can see above.
And below. Going thru a sharp dip could not happen w/o it.


 



I welded up a sandwich of plate pieces and drilled a couple holes in it.





 
gg

mudfarmer

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moodnacreek

That would be perfect for getting the cedar out that is deep in the wood lot I bought. Thanks for showing, Doug

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