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hillbilly · June 08, 2005, 06:12:08 AM

Bibby is there any reason that you didnt buy the JCB,like there being fewer dealers maybe parts harder to get if you wrer needing them fast? Just curious im looking at a930 JCB forklift the price is good but in this area everyone ether has a w/loader or a case it seems like.Im not to far from a case dealer but the closest JCB is in fulton,MO.
HILLBILLY

Bibbyman · June 08, 2005, 07:46:05 PM

We liked the little JCB tellahandler. It's what lead us to decide not to get a wheel loader. But one feature about the model we tried out we didn't like - the seat was between the main frame of the loader and you had to climb over and into it like getting into the General Lee off the Dukes of Hazard. We just couldn't see doing that a hundred times a day. We talked to the dealer about the next size bigger model. But we found that equipment dealers were not interested in finding or getting anything for you. They all wanted to sale you something they had in stock.

We looked at JD, New Holland, and eventually found the Terex. It was just the right size and price effective.

Just where are you at?? Hertz equipment rental has a lot of JCB equipment for sale. The Hertz place in Columbia has some and can link in to hundreds of machines coming off of their rental programs.

beenthere · June 08, 2005, 08:21:13 PM

Getting in and out easily is sure important.
It's what I liked about the Bobcat ToolCat 5600. Used one for a couple days moving gravel over an established lawn, and didn't tear up the lawn at all while placing washed stone around the plantings close to a house. Lifts up to 1500#, to a height of 84". Accepts all the Bobcat attachments. Has front and rear power as well as front and rear steering. Lock out the rear so conventional front wheel steering is possible too.

Possibly worth a look if interested in a very handy yard machine and loader.

http://www.bobcat.com/products/twm/index.html

hillbilly · June 08, 2005, 09:12:35 PM

Im about 53 miles east of willowsprings mo. away out in the woods where the crows walk hand in hand with the chickens.I think that Im only about a hour and 1/2 from noble .I hadnt thought about checking the rental companys Ive been on rock and dirt .com about a hundred times but every thing seems to be on auction and I never have time to go to a sale.
hillbilly

Bibbyman · June 08, 2005, 09:38:16 PM

Here is the link to Hertz Equipment web site.

Hertz Equipment

If you click on "Used Equipment", Then scroll to the bottom and "Search the Source" at the bottom, it'll let you search through everything in their inventory. When we were looking for loaders, they had a lot of JCB equipment. It don't look like they have as much JCB now.

Bibbyman · June 12, 2005, 02:54:17 PM

Here is a picture of the front wheel center on our 4WA AGCO 4660.

Cracks had developed in the bolt pattern (got so bad it cracked out) and were re-welded twice. I then resorted to having new, heavier, centers made in a machine shop and had a welding shop cut out the old centers and weld these in - inside and out. The plate the centers were made from was something like 7/16" thick - twice as thick as the factory centers. The factory centers were made of very soft metal.

The new centers have held up well but now the rims have developed cracks where the logs are welded onto it.

I priced new centers from AGCO but they were no longer available. Something about they didn't hold up. The new replacement centers required new rims that took a different tire size. Also, the part number for the bolts and spring washers were different. The washers alone would have cost $12 each!! The whole conversion would have cost over $2000.00.

thedeeredude · June 12, 2005, 05:07:06 PM

JCB skidloaders have a side door, supposed to be easier to get into the cab that way. http://www.jcb.com/(4nx5yuzktsldrifqanmunwru)/products/productdetail.aspx?ind=agriculture&pid=651&RID=41

TeaW · June 12, 2005, 05:07:49 PM

Bibbyman, it looks like you gave that 4660 a bit of a workout. How did the rest of it hold up?From the pics I seen of your log yard the Terex will have been a big improvement. It looks like it is about as good a machine to get in and out of as you can get.

Bibbyman · June 12, 2005, 05:53:48 PM

Quote from: thedeeredude on June 12, 2005, 05:07:06 PM
JCB skidloaders have a side door, supposed to be easier to get into the cab that way. http://www.jcb.com/(4nx5yuzktsldrifqanmunwru)/products/productdetail.aspx?ind=agriculture&pid=651&RID=41

That'd be better for me than climbing in and out over the front. I wonder if the boom telescopes? Once you've had a machine with a telescoping boom, it's hard to imagine working without one – especially in a machine this size and asked to do so many things. It just gives the machine one more dimension.

(Just this last Thursday I had a guy show up with a big dump truck with side boards. He wanted sawdust. Asked. "Do you think you're little loader can load this truck?" I could have dumped it on the other side of the truck if I wanted too! He was impressed. )

Somewhere I've seen articulated loaders with a telescopic boom. Maybe JCB also? I think it was in the range of 4'-6'.

TeaW,

We've been pleased with the 4660. Found it on an industraial machine lot. Was only 2 years old and had less than 1000 hours and got it for half what a new one would have cost.

The only other problem we've had has been with the joystick controls that are cable. We've had to replace a couple 2 or 3 cables at $100/each - plus part of them main joystick block at $60 for a hunk of plastic you could hide in you fist. >:(

Just put in a new ignition switch this week end. About the size of a hen egg - cost $53.. >:(

We've had it 8 years now and put another 1000 hours + on it. We also bush hog with it and blade off snow, etc.

Robert_in_W._Mi. · June 13, 2005, 10:01:38 PM

Bibbyman,

The AGCO 4600 series were sold off pretty cheap as they were an old design that was replaced with a MUCH updated 5600 series. Everything about the 5600's are better and it's over all, a lot stronger and nicer tractor to own and use.

One thing to keep in mind, you need to be greaseing the whole front end on the MFWD 4600's EVERY 10 hours. (that was fixed in the 5600's) Also, use the loader to lift the front end off the ground when you grease the hindge pin in the front end. This is important is you want the front end to last, and it's very expensive to repair if you don't keep it greased properly!!

Anyway, many 4600's had wheel center problems when used for heavy loader use, and i'm glad they fixed it on the updated models!

Robert

Bibbyman · June 13, 2005, 10:34:13 PM

Quote from: Robert_in_W._Mi. on June 13, 2005, 10:01:38 PM
One thing to keep in mind, you need to be greaseing the whole front end on the MFWD 4600's EVERY 10 hours.

I'd better run out and grease the front end about 200 times just to catch up. :