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Mulberry - male or female?

Started by getoverit, January 06, 2006, 12:16:46 AM

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Tom

a "large, hard, white, mulberry, after-fruit?"   

I never heard of that.  You must have a special tree.  Maybe a mutation.  It might be the one bush that will change the worlds mulberry population and a million years from now take over the world.  It might be intelligent.  No telling what would happen if you ate one.  :D :D

SwampDonkey

There is white mulberry (Morus alba), native to Japan and China.

I can't imagine a mulberry bearing fruit twice a year though. You sure it's not some kind of gull?

'Some white mulberries occasionally suffer from popcorn disease. The disease is caused by a fungus that causes individual fruit carpels to swell until they look like unpopped popcorn kernels. Collect and destroy diseased fruit.'
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There are some ancient tales about mulberries:

Pyramus and Thisbe

The Medes and Babylonians burnt the palace of Assurnasirpal II (Assyrian ruler 884-859 BCE) made of cedar, cypress, juniper, boxwood, mulberry, pistachio wood and tamarisk.
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Tom

http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/mulberry.html

This is an interesting site full of info.

It seems that a mulberry can be male or female at whim.

White mulberry's can make white fruits but usually they are red

Propogation is midsummer

Grown from seed, it takes 10 years to develop fruit.

SwampDonkey

Quote from: Tom on January 19, 2006, 01:05:39 PM

It seems that a mulberry can be male or female at whim.


Thus, the term polygomous.
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Tom

I've got a neighbor that must have a Gomous.  :P ;D

SwampDonkey

Tom, mulberry sure are an interesting bunch. Trying to figure out their sex, gender or whatever is like playing 'dodge the farmer'. They can have male, female, or perfect flowers and any combination of the three. I'll stick with the barbless blackberries and raspberries. :D :D
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Tom

I had a customer wanting some to make Bows from.  Did you know that it was a Bow wood?    I didn't.  I told him the ditches were full of the stuff .  He didn't know where to find them.

I think they are mor popular for Native bows (one piece wood) than laminated stuff.   That's all I know about that. 

I do know that the wood makes a pretty good bowl.   I've not sawed any, but I've seen a lot of it turned.

http://www.murraygaskins.com/mulberry.html

SwampDonkey

No I didn't know that. I did know that pacific yew was used as bow wood. Our Canadian yew is too small a shrub for bows. When I was a kid we always experimented with making bows and arrows and I found northern white cedar made nice arrows. I tried ash for bows, but they'de collapse. I did get my hands on a home made Indian bow and I beleive it was made from black spruce. My grandfather was given it by a local Indian chief and when I got it the bow string was missing. I don't know where it is now.  ::)
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IL Bull

I thought that osage orange was bow wood. ???
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SwampDonkey

I've read that, but it's original distribution was Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Texas so many tribes wouldn't have had access to it. ;)
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getoverit

I'll try rooting some and see if I can get them to grow. I guess I really need cuttings from several different trees just to make sure I have a female in the bunch. Heck, for all I know, I may already have a female and need a male  :D

Thanks for all the good info on this thread though. I've learned a bunch about mulberries, and if this tree doesnt start producing soon, I may even cut it down and mill it up. I'm almost itching to see the orange wood  ;D
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Quote from: getoverit on January 22, 2006, 11:34:02 PM
Thanks for all the good info on this thread though. I've learned a bunch about mulberries, and if this tree doesnt start producing soon, I may even cut it down and mill it up. I'm almost itching to see the orange wood  ;D

I always wondered if there was a way to preserve the color of fresh cut mulberry.  That almost flouresent orange green is really pretty stuff, fresh.
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Captain

We've got just one mulberry here on the side of the house.  It is loaded every year.

Captain

Tom

It must have something to do with the side of the house.  Dad used to get that way too.  ;D

ellmoe

Question   :How to tell the sex of a mulberry tree?

Answer      : Look in the crotch! :o
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