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Started by thedeeredude, December 30, 2007, 01:50:44 PM

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thedeeredude

Right now Im storing fresh cut turning blank logs in the garage.  Is there a chance of infestation stemming from keeping them there?  I dont want to keep them outside because of seasonal changes degrading them.  Ends are waxed also.  Could Termites, beetles and that become a problem?  When I get a chance Im going to rip them with a chainsaw or use a splitting wedge but until then they have no place to go.  Thanks.

Furby

This time of year you should be ok, unless your garage is heated and you already have a colony of something livng in the garage/blanks.
Come spring you may start to have trouble, but they won't be as fresh then either.
Don't store them right on the concrete floor, put them on some scrap wood or pallets.

thedeeredude

Theyre not directly on concrete.  I sat them on some scrap hardboard.  Where could I store them come spring/summer so they dont degrade but dont harbor bugs?

Furby

I'll let someone else give you a better answer on degrade as I don't know much about turning wood, but if the bark is removed, you should be fine keeping them where they are.
They will have lost a little moisture by spring and won't be as big of bug magnets, but removing the bark will be the best.

Left Coast Chris

You would have a better chance of no bugs if the bark was off.   Leaving the bark on for any length of time usually starts the bugs going.  If they are completly frozen you may not have a problem but since you said your were "storing" them that usually means they will be there for awhile and then you will certainly have problems as the temps start to raise.   Some turners spary insecticides (Diazinon, Malithion, Lorsban etc).  I do not like to spray inside nor work around insecticides.

It would be best to rough turn the bowls then store them in a paper bag until they no longer loose weight.   I have had only one rough turned bowl (with bark edge) get bugs and they were already in the bark then bored out through the bag.    The risk is getting the bugs into the wood in your house or other wood laying around.  Having a bug epidemic can cause alot of anxiety and can take a year or more to get rid of.  Powderpost beatles are real problems around hardwood and will multiply out of control.  I had to spray all of my stock with Timbore and isolate hatches in a quarintine area outside to get things under control.   Lots of english walnut damaged.

Don't mean to scare you but suggest storing it outside as a minimum if it will be around while temps rise.
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beenthere

Quote from: thedeeredude on December 30, 2007, 01:50:44 PM
.............................. When I get a chance Im going to rip them with a chainsaw or use a splitting wedge ..................

When will you get a chance?  ........as it has an effect on the answer.  :) :)

What species?
If for turning blanks, do you want to keep them green?
What size are the logs?

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thedeeredude

Uhhh... from the post by leftcoastchris Im going to split them asap and rewax the ends and get the bark off.  Its hickory maple and walnut.  The logs are mostly already partly split.  The only one in log form is the walnut.  I'll get them outside.  Thanks.

SwampDonkey

I don't find the bugs bother some short sticks I have in the barn, about 6 feet long. I have basswood, elm and butternut. Been there 10 years or more. The more they dry, the less likely the bigger bugs will attack. Could get powder post though. Bugs don't bother firewood in the cellar or barn either. But your trying to keep moisture in your logs so they would attract bugs with the bark on them. Those logs split a lot easier frozen. I used to go get ax and paddle wood (maple, yellow birch) and used to split 6 or 7 foot logs with a splitting ax and maul.  ;)
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artenvielfalt

HI THERE; I HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS TURNING A LOT AND HE IS CUTTING THINGS UP FOR THE SIZE HE WANTS THEM AND THEN LETS THEM SIT IN A MOISTURE PLACE; WELL HE LIKES THE SPARKED UP COLOUR TOO SO HE DOESN´T CARE ABOUT THAT:  BUT MOSTLY HE TURNES THEM GREEN AT ABOUT THE SIZE HE WANTS THEM AND THEN FINISHES THEM ABOUT HALF A YEAR LATER AND THEN THEY ARE DRY:  THE THICKNESS HE PRETURNS THEM IS ABOUT 3-5 CM IN THICKNESS AND LETS THEM DRY THEN:  THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE IF THE BOWL STAYS RIGHT OR GETS RIPPED OPEN BY DRYING: 
IF YOU GOT THE TIME PRETURN THEM
YOU GET RID OF THE BARK AND ALL ANYWAY AND THE BOWLS ARE SET FOR CHRISTMAS NEXT YEAR TO BE GIVEN AWAY:
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