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Started by TravisP, October 24, 2008, 07:57:17 PM

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Eharding

I am new to the site as well and trying to see if there is any locations in East Texas to get SYP pressure treated.
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kantuckid

Gene nailed my own experience with failed PT pine!
In the 1980's my wife was working for the USDA, Daniel Boone NF and when picking her up at work one day I noticed that they were having rough sawed pine PT for their own forest uses.
Given that our home is a rustic structure, i.e. a self built log cabin, I liked the rough surface for building a large deck I'd designed.
I learned that a PT facility outside Mt. Sterling, KY, ~ 30 miles from me had done the treating. I went there and ask them if they would treat my lumber, was told that the moisture wasn't real critical because the chamber pulled a vacuum thus the water came out and the preservatives went in. My wood was not at 20% for certain but I went with what the PT plant foreman had told me. Moving forward some years, maybe 10 or so, I began to notice some 2" rough sawed deck floor boards begining to fail. I went to the same company to ask what they'd be willing to do about my problem of several thousand BF of deck failing. They had moved to what is likely still their current location in Winchester, KY by that time. The two people in the office were the owner and the secretary who told me she'd been with them the entire time they were in operation, including prior to the newer owner I was dealing with. I tried to be civil but the guy got real angry and asked me what I'd expected, etc.. The secretary chimed in that the only failed PT wood she'd ever heard of was from horse farm fence boards chewed beyond the PT treatment barrier thus into untreated wood. They were then a Geogia-Pacific wood treatment facility, before a no brand I guess. So I asked the owner what the meaning of the PT tags was on all his PT products. I sort of knew that answer as I'd used the free Ozmose mail-in, teaching program with my own carpentry students in the past. It was a basic wood treatment tutorial on how to use, build with PT lumbers based on specific use and best practice. Students would do a lesson then I'd mail in their answers and at the end they'd get a cute PT Diploma.
So the guy goes into a file cabinet and pulls out what looks like a pile of cell phone service contracts :D and proceeds to tell me the lawyers have made his plastic board end tags irrelevant as it were.
In the end I was told they treat a new batch of wood I provided for no cost but not cover the considerable cost of me failed deck. Since I'm not much of a sue people sort of man I ate a very bad experience. I do feel that moisture of my wood was an issue for certain. Some lasted, much did not! As I tore down this huge deck I kept those boards which showed no weathering damage and still have some on a stickered pile these many years later and looking great and waiting for another reuse. I did use a bunch of them to frame my WM sawmill shed some years back. I'll probably go through most of the rest as porch floor joists for my current off-grid small cabin.
That deck was given liberal applications of proper preservative stains once it had dried enough to hold a stain.
As many of you know that PT chemical plays havoc with regular steel nails!

As a side note I'll add this tidbit: That same PT facility yard where my failed PT lumber was (supposedly) treated is now a small subdivision just outside Mt. Sterling, KY. A few years back it became a big news item that the soil in those home owners yards was heavily contaminated from that PT plant. I honestly have no idea what happened after the Feds became involved as there were many homes in there and don't know of what resolution came about?
Kan=Kansas;tuck=Kentucky;kid=what I'm not

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