Log Dogs for wooden cradles?

[RedLeg]

Been searching the archives and found several interesting options.  EZ Dogs and GripperDogs/Frame Dogs look like just the ticket but I can't locate a source for either  :(.  All the posts referring to them are quite old.  I'm looking for something that will fit a 4X4 or 4X6. Can anyone point me to a US source for either or suggest any other options?  Thank you.

Updated... looking for these.

[StorminN]

Not sure where you can get those other two – but Mobile Dimension sells a log holder for their mills, it's a small piece of steel I-beam with a fixed dog on one side and a ratcheting dog on the other... looks like this:



The ones on my mill are bolted to 4"x6" wooden cross ties.

Scroll down to see it on Mobile's web site here, they also have the additional holder that allows you to clamp multiple logs at one time:
http://www.mobilemfg.com/portable-saw-accessories.html

Hope this helps,
-Norm.

[sandhills]

Hi guys, pretty new here but have posted a few times, anyway haven't been able to get pics posted yet but you just answered one of my questions---I think.  Some buddies and I bought a circle mill this spring and it came with a log dog (I think).  The one we got ratchets from both ends if memory serves correct.  REALLY new to this, is that meant for keeping the log in place while centering on the carriage?

[Ron Wenrich]

Circle mills have a dog that comes down from the top.  It is mounted on the headblock.  Automatic mills have a dog that bites from the top and bottom.  Most manual mills only bite from the top.

The dog is put into the log to prevent movement of the log while sawing.  Never saw a log without having all the dogs in place and secure. 

[bandmiller2]

Sometimes log dogs designed for circular mill can be laid on their side and serve yoeman duty on a band mill,I used two dog setups off an old frick mill on my bandmill worked well.Frank C.

[paul case]

the first circle mill i was ever around was jr's old manual meadowsxcorley . when jr was sawin the first cut he only threw the first dog down and when he was edging he only used the first dog.
the manual i got with my m14 belsaw said not to dog the log at all when it was sitting on  bark. chuck chips under it to keep it steady. ever heard of this? something about binding.i always had at least 1 dog on the log.
my ez boardwalk band mill is upposed to cut up to 36'', but if you put a log on it that big the squaring arm and clamps will not come up far enough to let the handle swing out to operate.  on one that  big i have to let the log stops down and center the log on the bed and put wedges on the bunks to hold the log steady. pc

[sandhills]

sure wish I could get my pic of this posted for you guys, my carriage has four log dogs, thats not what I was talking about. StorminN posted a pic of a tool we got one similiar to it with our mill but it is completely separate. We didn't know if someone just through it in not knowing what it was or if it actually went with it. After seeing the post I think thats what it is. We haven't been able to get the mill set up yet and it's been awhile since I've seen it, just remember wondering what that thing was.(P.S. we bought this on an auction that none of us could attend, hope to have pics posted soon.)

[bandmiller2]

Circle sawyers are always in a hurry most handset guys I've watched just use one dog,until they get the cant down to a couple of boards then they drop a back dog as the freight train rolls by them.Myself I dog at least twice,i've had logs move around and crowd the saw and didn't like it.Good clamping is most important on the first cut you dont want the log rocking and swinging.My carriage has two good screw dogs.Frank C.

[sandhills]

Trust me, we're not in a hurry! I've worked around all kinds of machinery that could kill me all my life, and to boot we all work once a week at the local livestock market where we all have to watch each others backs. That being said I've never had quite as much respect for anything as I do when just looking at that saw. (52 in circle) 

[Ron Wenrich]

You can cut corners and only use a dog or two.  As long as the log doesn't move, you're OK.  But, you also get the log moving while you're sawing, and tension is released in the log.

There was a mill near me that had one of those big dogs that were designed to dog the logs in the middle.  I forget the technical name.  They used that dog for sawing instead of using their dogs on the headblocks.  Their lumber was junk because the log moved and they had lumber that was thick and thin. 

On a hand mill, you probably can get by on dogging only the end of a log as long as you're always pushing the log/cant over with your hip as it goes by.  Its sure a lot easier to dog it as its going past and making sure its secure. 

You have to remember that you want your log secure on the way forward and on the way back.  You can do some nasty damage on the gig back if the log rolls out of the dogs. 

[Tripp]

 I always use 2 dogs on everything I cut. It takes a little more time, but I think the added safety factor is worth it.

Tripp

[weisyboy]

you can get the EZ dogs from Peterson global sales.

http://www.petersonsawmills.com/press_releases_ezdogs.htm

i use timber blocks. screwed down on the cutting side and just knocked aginst the log on the back side.

[Meadows Miller]

Gday

I find the lucas log chocks are great to use and have very positive dogging in pine and hardwood and also  as they are cast alloy and if you hit one it wont destroy your tct tips Mate i think they go for about $200 for a set of 4 and you can get them through baileys  ;)

Ron i think the term you are looking for Mate  ???  is either a Master or Hammer Dog they are good for the first few cuts on the carriage on Large or rough logs where you would have dramas dogging them properly with the std or tong dogs  ;)

Regards Chris

[StorminN]

sandhills,

Does the device you got with your mill look like this?



If so, it's a different sort of log dog. These are meant to bolt to the side of a wooden cross tie.

If it doesn't look like these, could it be a device used to turn a log manually?

-Norm.