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Controlling Vines in Loblolly Plantation

Started by Claybraker, April 26, 2012, 11:41:55 AM

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Claybraker

Quote from: WDH on July 23, 2012, 07:28:19 AM
In the quantity of diesel used in a basal bark spray on trees 6" and less in diameter, it does not poison the soil.

I've done some informal experiments on the subject using Garlon and sweetgum as the target species. As the diameter increases, the cost per stem increases, and the likelihood of success decreases. Somewhere around 2" to 3" diameter, it's easier to whack 'em with a hatchet and squirt 'em. Below that diameter, it's hard to give 'em a good whack.

WDH

That is exactly my experience as well. With something like privet that grows in a horrible clump, it is tough to get inside the clump to hack-n-squirt, plus, there are so many stems.  This is where the basal spray saves the day as you can stand back several feet and not have to get tangled in the greenbriar  :).
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Pullinchips

Quote from: GATreeGrower on July 16, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
Quote from: WDH on April 26, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Like TR said, fire. 

Garlon will kill greenbriar.  About the only thing that will that is not soil active like Tordon.  A 3% solution sprayed on the leaves works, but as this stuff climbs, it is hard to get the herbicide on the leaves.  Another option is a basal spray of 25% garlon and 75% diesel with a surfactant (a few squirts of liquid dishwashing soap).

Fire is the best control, but fire is complicated and requires some skill and knowledge to execute.
Isn't diesel illegal to use?

NO not for herbicie use etc, if its labled for use than its legal to tank mix. Now you can't put str8 deisel in your sprayer and spray weeds with it around your house, but forestry is an AG industry and is thus protected and has certain exemptions. BUT almost every herbicide is labled to tank mix with deisel, but as with anything READ your lable if its there under your application its legal.

I am a licensed federal applicator, but take this info as you like.  I would spray it on my lands i manage and they are public lands, but i would stick to label doses and applications.
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WDH

The tank mix of 25% Garlon and 75% Diesel for the basal spray that I use is a Label prescription.
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Pullinchips

Yea basil spray applications almost always use high deisel concentration and herbicide of choice, but i think garlon is the old stand by.  The deisel stays and penetrates as well as burns through the cambium allowing the herbicide a better in, into the plant or tree.

But you have a few years on me so im not telling you anything you dont know!
Resident Forester
US Army Corps of Engineers: Savannah District

Clemson Forestry Grad 2004
MFR Clemson University 2006
Stihl MS 390

customsawyer

Please keep in mind that Garlon dissipates at 91 degrees. Please don't get to close to cotton fields. If it dissipates it is hard to keep on site.
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GATreeGrower

Quote from: Pullinchips on July 28, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: GATreeGrower on July 16, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
Quote from: WDH on April 26, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Like TR said, fire. 

Garlon will kill greenbriar.  About the only thing that will that is not soil active like Tordon.  A 3% solution sprayed on the leaves works, but as this stuff climbs, it is hard to get the herbicide on the leaves.  Another option is a basal spray of 25% garlon and 75% diesel with a surfactant (a few squirts of liquid dishwashing soap).

Fire is the best control, but fire is complicated and requires some skill and knowledge to execute.
Isn't diesel illegal to use?

NO not for herbicie use etc, if its labled for use than its legal to tank mix. Now you can't put str8 deisel in your sprayer and spray weeds with it around your house, but forestry is an AG industry and is thus protected and has certain exemptions. BUT almost every herbicide is labled to tank mix with deisel, but as with anything READ your lable if its there under your application its legal.

I am a licensed federal applicator, but take this info as you like.  I would spray it on my lands i manage and they are public lands, but i would stick to label doses and applications.

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