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Lt40 Help!! Onan 24 will only run full choke.

Started by Peder McElroy, August 07, 2012, 12:41:29 AM

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Al_Smith

I'll tell you what might help on these small engine carbs is a set of tip cleaners used on a cutting torch .Buy the long type .Often they will punch through those little passage ways where compressed air will not nor will carb cleaner .

For some reason it seems the aluminum kind of flakes off and clogs the jets and passage ways I suppose due to the fuel .Whatever causes it it becomes a monumental pain in the buttocks at times .

Another thing it could be just by the nature of the usage of the engine is teeny tiny wood fibers that find their way through the fuel filters .Doesn't seem possible but if it can happen to  chainsaw a sawmill engine is not immune to it .

ladylake

Quote from: Peder McElroy on August 07, 2012, 06:13:29 PM
I got it to run today by squezing  the bulb on the gas line and a new filter,but still not right. Do you think a dull blade would cause the motor to work too hard and heat up? It runs good at first and then 1/2 way through the log it runs bad (after about four cuts).

It's not going to make 4 cuts with a clogged carb, it could with a clogged gas tank vent.  I'd check the coil known for heating up and not working.   Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

Peder McElroy

Thanks all.  I'll keep trying and let you know when I finally get it run the way it should. The good thing is that I don't have any logs to cut at this time.
Peder

Magicman

Quote from: Peder McElroy on August 07, 2012, 12:41:29 AM
My onan 24 will start and run for awhile at 1/2 choke and then die unless I put in full choke. 

Has this changed?
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ladylake

Quote from: Peder McElroy on August 07, 2012, 06:13:29 PM
It runs good at first and then 1/2 way through the log it runs bad (after about four cuts).

As I said with a clogged carb it's not going to make 4 cuts, could be a clogged tank vent or partially clogged or cracked fuel line which would be checked by checking the gas supply coming to the carb. I'd sure check the for good spark right after it started acting up.  Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

millstead

check the compression alot of times an engine with a dead cylinder will run with the choke closed and as the engine warms up it will run worse to the point where it wont run at all

ladylake

Quote from: millstead on August 11, 2012, 03:42:16 PM
check the compression alot of times an engine with a dead cylinder will run with the choke closed and as the engine warms up it will run worse to the point where it wont run at all

Good idea, also might need to get the valves adjusted which could tighten up when hot.  Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

Chuck White

Will the engine run right when you are only at an idle?

Will it run for ...... say......20 minutes, at an idle with no problems, and then when you go to full throttle it acts up?
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.  2020 Mahindra ROXOR.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

Peder McElroy

Problem fixed. Fuel pump!!! I set up a gravety feed tank and bypassed the fuel pump and it ran for 15-20 minutes at low speed no problem.
Thanks to all for all the ideas.
Peder

Chuck White

Peder;  Glad to hear you've got it figured out!  Now you can sleep right!

I got a replacement fuel pump for my Onan at the local lawn mower and chainsaw shop.

It is a fuel pump designed for the DRĀ© equipment.

It doesn't line up the same as OEM would, but it does work well.

Cost = $14.00 (2 years ago.
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.  2020 Mahindra ROXOR.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

Magicman

Plus you had a Forestry Forum load of technicians fly to your assistance and you now know everything that could possible go wrong in the future.  What a great bunch of guys.   smiley_thumbsup
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

Peder McElroy


woodmills1

nice


I have a cat now but I kinda miss my Onan, it was good to me
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

ladylake


Pedor,  hows the Onan running with the new fuel pump?     Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

Peder McElroy

It's working perfect.I got a fuel pump from a Briggs and Stratton. The mount is different but I made it work. $25.00
Peder

Al_Smith

 I had wondered if in fact a diaphragm pump from a Briggs would work or not . On that I order diaphragm kits two -three at a time because I have several Briggs engines that seem to get maybe 4 years more or less before the things get stiff and inoperative .They're fairly cheap .

It's just a simple matter of knowing given enough time they will get funky on you .Rather than fiddle around a week getting a kit shipped I have one on hand when I need it .

Migal

I was so glad to hear you got her up and running  8) and posted what the culprit was  :) hope many learn from your post's!
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