Cedar entry door

WmFritz · March 22, 2013, 08:36:50 PM

Very impressive... I'm going to start an interior door tomorrow but, it won't look anywhere as nice as yours Larry. Nice job

WDH · March 22, 2013, 09:32:10 PM

Good deal! When you are done with the doors, you can use the rotisserie to cook a hog on ;D.

Lud · March 22, 2013, 11:29:50 PM

Good looking doors, Larry, and your finishing procedure should give great results.

Cody says there's only 3 kind of finishes. What category would you put the ONE Time product in? You need the sun to cure it and I was impressed by the way it soaked into the wood. It's my finsh of choice for outside wood at this time.

It isn't a gloss type finish but can be refinished with just another coat after 4 years or so.

Magicman · March 23, 2013, 08:35:18 AM

Looking Good Larry,

and the entire project has been amazing. At least you have now progressed to a point where the end results are in sight.

Norm · March 23, 2013, 12:30:36 PM

Looking great Larry!

Larry · March 23, 2013, 06:04:10 PM

Quote from: Lud on March 22, 2013, 11:29:50 PM
Cody says there's only 3 kind of finishes. What category would you put the ONE Time product in? You need the sun to cure it and I was impressed by the way it soaked into the wood. It's my finsh of choice for outside wood at this time.

It isn't a gloss type finish but can be refinished with just another coat after 4 years or so.

I'm not familiar with that finish...had to do a google to find out about it. Didn't see any list of all its make up. It does sound interesting.

I tried to scuff sand this morning to knock off some of my dust nibs. All that did was roll up little gummy corns. Switched gears and tried wet sanding with mineral spirits as the lube. That worked perfect.

Tree Feller · March 23, 2013, 08:05:10 PM

Quote from: Lud on March 22, 2013, 11:29:50 PM

Cody says there's only 3 kind of finishes. What category would you put the ONE Time product in? You need the sun to cure it and I was impressed by the way it soaked into the wood. It's my finsh of choice for outside wood at this time.

It isn't a gloss type finish but can be refinished with just another coat after 4 years or so.

Three clear, outdoor finishes. I was quoting Bob Flexner and perhaps One Time was developed after he published his book on finishing. The One Time MSDS and their site shows it to be composed of acrylate resin with a high solids content...98% by volume. An acrylate is a polymer...a plastic. It sounds like it is a poly varnish without the oil but how such a high-solids finish can also penetrate the wood is, I guess, their own little secret...or actually patent.

Researching it, I saw some photos of Cedar that had been finished with One Time that contained a Cedar-colored pigment. It looked very good after a year. I'll soon be siding my house in ERC and I'll definitely do some more research on One Time.

Tree Feller · March 23, 2013, 08:07:18 PM

Larry, that door and the sidelights are looking wonderful. You have a nice shop and do very nice work. I'm impressed.

drobertson · March 24, 2013, 10:20:23 AM

Larry, nice work! I want one now, the wife has been hinting around for a new entry door, after seeing this one I am in the hot seat! looks great, beautiful! thanks for sharing, david

WDH · March 24, 2013, 08:27:07 PM

David,

Hide your password

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Lud · March 24, 2013, 08:50:11 PM

ONE Time is relatively new stuff . Only out a few years. It soaks in nicely and a second coat a few days later lets you see it's potential. I'm giving it a chance over the next few years.

It has to have sun to cure. Set it out and and wait to be impressed with it's outside worthy exterior skin. ;) ;)

francismilker · April 13, 2013, 11:58:12 AM

Larry, I can only say WOW!!!!

I've always loved doing work with ERC but have decided after seeing the detail you put in this door I wouldn't be worthy to carry your tool belt for you :

This is one awesome thread and I'll continue to keep an eye on it to see the final outcome.

ayerwood · April 13, 2013, 12:09:34 PM

Beautiful wood making a beautiful door. Wish I had an ounce of craftsmanship skills to do something that nice. Excellent job!

Larry · May 06, 2013, 06:14:41 PM

Now that turkey season is over, white bass run has ended, and mushroom pickings are scare, I suppose it's time to finish the door. At least that's what Kathy told me. :D

Right after my last post I cut all of the parts for the door frame and they have been sitting until last night. The door jams are glued up from three pieces wood to control seasonal movement. They still moved just a little over there length in the last month. A pass over the jointer got them back perfectly straight. I checked the door and side lights for any movement. Didn't see any movement at all. Glued up the door frame last night.

Put the first coat of sealer on this afternoon. I've decided I don't like varnish. I have neither the skill, patience, or dust free room to do a good job. I do admire those that can do a varnish finish.

After I get it finished I'll give it a week to dry and get it installed.

Magicman · May 06, 2013, 09:33:08 PM

It's good to see you back on track again. I well understand long drawn out projects because mine is over two years old, but thankfully I can finally see the end.

hillbillyhogs · May 07, 2013, 11:10:59 AM

Quote from: Norm on March 04, 2013, 08:29:32 AM
Looks great so far Larry!

My front door I made turned out so well I had Pella build me the replacement. :D

Me TOO

grweldon · May 07, 2013, 11:53:41 AM

Quote from: Magicman on May 06, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
... I well understand long drawn out projects because mine is over two years old, but thankfully I can finally see the end.

Don't get me started! First foundation post for my house went in May 2007. I still have only studs/insulation on the inside and OSB/housewrap on the outside. One of these years I'll remedy that! ;D

Axe Handle Hound · May 07, 2013, 02:48:10 PM

Larry- How did you cut the profile on the threshold? I like the way that looks. And is there a corebox profile routed into the jambs?

Varnish has its drawbacks for sure. You have to let the shop settle for an entire day before tack clothing every surface. No blowing dust, no running equipment, no stomping your feet (in case you were a dancing sort) and don't open the door if it's windy. If you can do all that your varnish will lay out beautiful.

What is your preferred finish?

Dodgy Loner · May 07, 2013, 05:59:47 PM

That's why I use lacquer :D

hackberry jake · May 07, 2013, 06:17:37 PM

The way I do varnish, the last coat is the only one that matters. As long as there isnt large particles (like hairs) then when you block sand between coats, it all smooths up. I then mix about 3/4 mineral spirits and 1/4 varnish and apply it really thin so it dries fast. The last time you blocksand before the last coat should be a minimum of 220 grit.

Larry · May 07, 2013, 07:19:20 PM

Quote from: Axe Handle Hound on May 07, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
Larry- How did you cut the profile on the threshold? I like the way that looks. And is there a corebox profile routed into the jambs?

I was wondering if anybody would ask about that threshold profile. It took a while to figure out how to make it. An Oakley oscillating edge sander is used.

I made a really boring video on the technique but you can get the idea.

http://youtu.be/VVJEkf2r5Mw

I use the same method to put a wavy edge on small tables/benches.

For the groove on the door jams I used a cove cutter in the shaper and plunge cut it. It is easy to do but not for the inexperienced. Only try it if you are comfortable with shaper operation.

Jake, to clean up the mess I made on the door I did wipe on the last coat cut 50/50. I'll give it a try with your ratio to see if I get an improvement. I wiped on all the coats (7) on a dining table a few years ago and got a good job.