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Started by Peter Drouin, November 02, 2015, 07:46:46 PM

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Peter Drouin

 

 
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Kbeitz

Get the chainsaw out....
Or make a totem pole...
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thecfarm

Trying to cut 48 feet long?
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Magicman

I have never had an occasion to do that......yet.   ;D
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Peter Drouin

Quote from: Magicman on November 02, 2015, 08:17:15 PM
I have never had an occasion to do that......yet.   ;D



Just a little shuffle shuffle  you know. ;)
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License NH softwood grader.

terrifictimbersllc

stick it into a cage full of beavers  ::)
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ladylake

 I've done quite a few of those, end for end with some blocking between the bed and cant.  On my mill the controls are in the way and I cant just slide it back.  Steve
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Gasawyer

Have to do that several times a year. Depending on log you might want to have support under far end and if you are not cutting to long only saw 17-18 foot then slide back and finish. Helps with sag/bowing. Longest I have cut is 27 feet on a standard bed LT-40 luckily just beams not lumber. If I had a lot to do a bed extension is the only way to go. Good luck!
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WV Sawmiller

    Looks like somebody needs to touch up the marks at the ends of the mill that show max cut positions.

    I haven't had to do that yet although I had one board I had to pry up and snap off because I was about 1" over the mark. Just lifted the rollers and slid it back and no problem.

   I guess you could just lift yours with the rollers, put a pivot log under the middle and swing it around and finish the other end. like you say, okay for beams but not for boards unless you wanted to do each one I guess. Looks to be pretty labor intensive.
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Peter Drouin

I had one 24' a customer wanted cut. So I did not hitch up my 24' ex. I do it all the time, Just looking to see if someone here knew how to do it too.  ;D
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45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Dave Shepard

I've had to do that with the BX24 on.
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slider

I am no expert at this but a while back i cut some 32 ft beams on my 20 ft bed.I called Custom sawyer for advice and he said just just before the end saw up out of the cut.I moved my roller table to the end for extra support and it worked well.This way you don"t have to try and back the head-rig up while in the cut which can be a pain.It took some getting use to but it worked for me.
al glenn

Peter Drouin

Quote from: slider on November 03, 2015, 06:14:28 PM
I am no expert at this but a while back i cut some 32 ft beams on my 20 ft bed.I called Custom sawyer for advice and he said just just before the end saw up out of the cut.I moved my roller table to the end for extra support and it worked well.This way you don"t have to try and back the head-rig up while in the cut which can be a pain.It took some getting use to but it worked for me.




That's a good way of getting out of the cut. I use a mall bar under the slab to pick it up and slide a piece of 1" board under it and cut it with my trim saw.
That way I have a good square edges to go to and can get the max to the shuffle thing.

And if I see movement on the end of the log I cut a piece.junk with the trim saw and weage, kick, hit, it up.  :D :D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Quebecnewf

Show us a pic of the other end then we can tell you how to "get her done". I think you have one of those "fancy" mills so it's going to require more work than on a " non orange less fancy" mill

Quebecnewf

Peter Drouin

Quote from: Quebecnewf on November 04, 2015, 05:30:46 AM
Show us a pic of the other end then we can tell you how to "get her done". I think you have one of those "fancy" mills so it's going to require more work than on a " non orange less fancy" mill

Quebecnewf




My mill,


  

 

I know how, Been doing it since 1987. The post was to see if some of you did not and we can talk about it so all will know. :)
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45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Remle

Quote from: Peter Drouin on November 04, 2015, 05:50:06 AM
Quote from: Quebecnewf on November 04, 2015, 05:30:46 AM
Show us a pic of the other end then we can tell you how to "get her done". I think you have one of those "fancy" mills so it's going to require more work than on a " non orange less fancy" mill

Quebecnewf




My mill,


  

 

I know how, Been doing it since 1987. The post was to see if some of you did not and we can talk about it so all will know. :)
Peter
I for one fall into the, do not know how it is done category and would appreciate your in-site to milling timbers of such length. Not that I have a need to do it at this time, but knowledge is lost if not passed along to others. So thank you for offering to share your knowledge with us !!
Remle

4x4American

I've never done it, but if I was to try, I'd say make a slab, get out of it, make a board, get out of it, flip same thing til you get to where he's at, then pull it back either on the roller toeboards or use tractor, winch, whatever you got. The round part can't be setting on a bunk.  Then lower head down to your timber dimensions and finish sawing the last of it. 
Boy, back in my day..

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Den-Den

Thanks for the picture, I had read about this but had not thought it out.  Now I understand and may try it.
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beenthere

With the subject title "Now what", if someone in the future is searching for the "How to do it", they will never find it and it will be lost. Searchable titles help a lot for the archives.
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4x4American

Ah, the way I search FF, I type into google forestry forum and then start writing about what I wanna find.  Works pretty well, it will bring up words within the thread so a guy could find something like this.
Boy, back in my day..

Peter Drouin

Quote from: beenthere on November 04, 2015, 10:07:17 AM
With the subject title "Now what", if someone in the future is searching for the "How to do it", they will never find it and it will be lost. Searchable titles help a lot for the archives.



If you want to change the title go ahead, it's ok with me. ;D
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

jmouton

i have always wanted to cut longer , but didnt want the expense of buying extra length for the one or two times a year we get a call for long wood ,beams,,  now i get it how its done ,,  we will have to try it and see how it turns out ,,,


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Peter Drouin

Quote from: jmouton on November 05, 2015, 07:11:37 PM
i have always wanted to cut longer , but didnt want the expense of buying extra length for the one or two times a year we get a call for long wood ,beams,,  now i get it how its done ,,  we will have to try it and see how it turns out ,,,


                                                                                                         jim


I know what you're saying about having the  tools and not using them.  :D
I moved my BX24' off to the side and moved the mill to have more room.
2 years ago I had a bunch of timber framers want all kinds of long stuff.
I have not used it this year.
All my lumber right now is 8' to 20' long, And sometimes a 24'. So I look at the and BX24 and know the days will come back when I need it.

Lot's of times if the butt flair is not too big I will get faces 1 and 3 first then go after 2 and 4
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Brucer

The downside of extending your mill 6' at a time (like I did) is the BX6 has the last bed rail right at the end. That means you can't "just" shuffle the cant forward. So ...

- Lift the cant with the toeboards.
- place some identical spacers at 4 or 5 points along the cant.
- lower the toeboards.
- saw the end slab off the top.
- carry on.
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