Timber Frame Sawhorse System (Mare & Colt) with photos!

Piston · November 14, 2012, 11:36:49 PM

Wow!
Brian and Rooster, you guys make a good team!

I like the solution you came up with...now, would this be considered the 3rd generation or 4th generation design? ;D

Brad_bb · November 15, 2012, 12:10:04 AM

You're gonna have to get a patent just so that it gets recorded in history.

beenthere · November 15, 2012, 12:42:04 AM

Might be impossible to get a patent as it has already been published here.

Rooster · November 15, 2012, 06:53:53 AM

Quote from: Piston on November 14, 2012, 11:36:49 PM
I like the solution you came up with...now, would this be considered the 3rd generation or 4th generation design? ;D

Let's call it 4th generation...just for the hewing side of things...pun intended!

Quote from: Brad_bb on November 15, 2012, 12:10:04 AM
You're gonna have to get a patent just so that it gets recorded in history.

I would entertain the patent thing...but not to make money...this is free for everyone to try...what hoops are involved in patenting?

Quote from: beenthere on November 15, 2012, 12:42:04 AM
Might be impossible to get a patent as it has already been published here.

It's the thought that counts....thanks Brad.

Rooster

Rooster · November 16, 2012, 10:11:09 PM

We're back!
Since we are in the "additional ideas" stage...I came up with ramps made out of 2x6 lumber, with anti-roll back dogs that are connected to a spring off of a screen door. The ramps are easily attached to the Colt deck with removeable steel pins. As the log is rolled up the ramps it pushes the dogs down and out of the way...as the log passes and clears each dog, the spring pulls the assembly back to position. This allows the log to be moved up the ramps in smaller steps or distances without the worry of it rolling backwards. Detaching the spring allows the dogs to lay flat, so that the hewn beam to be rolled or slid back down the ramps.

Parbuckling would also work by using two equal lengths of chain/cable...each attached to the side of the Colt decks. The two chains could then be brought together once they have been wrapped around the log at the bottom of the ramps. A single chain or cable/rope linked to the ends of the two rolling chains can then be pulled to parbuckle the log.

Rooster

Brian_Weekley · November 16, 2012, 10:30:11 PM

That rocks--I like it!

Rooster · November 17, 2012, 12:56:15 PM

How about a Schnitzelbunk (shaving bench) attachment?

It could be made out of 1in.x1in. angle iron steel, and ¾in. round rod. The wood pad which is part of the top/dumbhead could be made of Oak and attached with a couple or ¾in. steel electrical conduit straps...allowing it to swivel on the rod to conform to the surface of the wood blank being shaved/shaped.

The operator/framer would then sit on the Colt deck facing the mare, and by pushing the lower arm/foot pedal away, it would clamp the work piece to the top of the Mare deck.

Multiple holes would give different height and depth options for varying sizes of material used.

Rooster

Brian_Weekley · November 17, 2012, 03:08:21 PM

But wait, if you act now, you will also receive the complete one man band musical attachment system when you buy the MC (Mare & Colt) Timber Frame System. Not only will you be able to cut, chisel, hew, and make pegs, but you will also be able to provide the music for the barn dance at the end of the day... There is nothing the MC System can't do! :D

Rooster · November 17, 2012, 03:14:54 PM

One Man Garage Band!...

Literally...one man...in the band...in a garage!

In my mind, I wasn't picturing Brian in glasses...bare feet?, yes...but not glasses. lol

Brad_bb · November 20, 2012, 11:34:35 PM

I don't think it's very expensive to file your own patent directly. I'm used to utility patents which need to be written very well to make them strong, thus the need for expensive patent lawyers, renderings, and patent searches. But if just doing it for posterity, probably not very expensive. I don't know the exact filing fee costs though. If serious, we'd have to look into it.

Stephen1 · December 27, 2012, 05:57:26 PM

I really like watching ideas flow like on here.
What if you take the original clamp, and reverse the paddle type foot, turn it into a half moon about 6-8" long, so that fits around the round log. Would it have enough strength to hold the log in place. A notched piece of wood as Brian showed might be needed, but it would simplify having more tools. In fact using the same round bar have the the heads interchangeable.

Brian_Weekley · December 29, 2013, 02:47:56 PM

Hi Rooster,

I've got another attachment for your M&C Timber Frame System...

I added some adjustable support stands to my timber frame sawhorses. These work great as in-feed or out-feed supports for things like planers, and compound, table, or radial arm saws. These are held on the sawhorse with a single carriage bolt and wing nut. The support slides up and down between 30 and 40 inches in a rabbet and held fast with another carriage bolt through a groove and a wing nut. To one support, I attached a roller on top for the in-feed. I like to use a ramp to catch the out-feed. This setup works great for my planer and molding operations. You don't have to worry about these babies falling over!

Brian

Rooster · December 29, 2013, 04:04:44 PM

Looking good!!! Smarter than the average bear...

dustyjay · February 10, 2014, 07:48:57 PM

Here's my first attempt:

Rooster · February 10, 2014, 10:15:25 PM

They look sturdy, and very familiar.

Great job and thanks for posting photos!

Rooster

Gadrock · February 10, 2014, 10:28:57 PM

Being new to FF this old thread is a refreashing idea for my project. I am thinking the bases may need to be just a little wider, but this is from no experience.

The clamps system you are using should be a cinch for me as I have made lots of these things for use on anvils. Blacksmiths like myself use these too.

Thank you for showing this.

David Gaddis

carry on

Thehardway · February 11, 2014, 10:39:08 AM

If I build a stallion perhaps we could use it to stud with your fine looking mares and produce all the colts we need. You just need to get some of those colts you have now weaned off...

I would hate to be the one responsible for breaking those colts as they get a little older, might be a tough job as they ave great musculature and confirmation. Would those hold downs be called saddles or reins or maybe pommels?

All jokes aside, great concept and execution. I see mare and colt pairs in my future.

kiwi007 · August 05, 2016, 05:28:18 AM

Am new here and a big hello from NZ.

Unfortunately just finished my sawhorses (TimberFrameHQ design) before I found the FF. GRRRR!! Really like the design, especially the used of a holdall. Even my better Bessey clamps loosen when doing chisel work.

The stallion got me thinking. You could create one, yes only one required, by attaching a riserblock with a tenon at the top using threaded rod inserting them into the holdall holes . Final height of the stallion, one side fits into the tenon at the mare, other side self supporting; should be bar height for after hour functions......