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I need serious HELP! I bought my Timberking B20 and never got to use!

Started by wewacountryboy, June 05, 2017, 09:04:56 PM

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wewacountryboy

I bought this B20 two years ago and was told that it did not have many hours and it was ready to saw. As soon as I went to use it, the hydraulic lines started blowing and I replaced them as I tested it. About 6 months ago, the carriage would not go down, so I replaced the cord reel with no luck. Today, I attempted to figure it out and found that the downward safety is bad. I thought that I would run the engine a while to run some fresh gas and work the hydrolics, but as soon as I started the engine, the wires to the engine started smoking and I blew 3 more hydronic lines. I am looking for someone near me that knows how to fix it. I will pay a reasonable price and will deliver it to you. I hate to say that I have over $13,000 in this machine and have never used it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance!
Jonathan Hanson

Tom the Sawyer

Wow, sorry to hear you are having so many problems.  Did the seller demonstrate it when you bought it?  Is this something that happened since then?  If you haven't done so already, first call should be to Mike or Jason at TK.  Down limit sensor should be an easy replacement. 

This has two engines, as far as I know there aren't any wires running to the hydraulics engine and there is no connection between the hydraulic engine and the main blade drive engine.  There are wires running to the big engine, from the battery and the control box but something wrong with one of them shouldn't have anything to do with the other one's function. 
07 TK B-20, Custom log arch, 20' trailer w/log loading arch, F350 flatbed dually dump.  Piggy-back forklift.  LS tractor w/FEL, Bobcat S250 w/grapple, Stihl 025C 16", Husky 372XP 24/30" bars, Grizzly 20" planer, Nyle L200M DH kiln.
If you call and my wife says, "He's sawin logs", I ain't snoring.

Hilltop366

Do the hyd lines look bad or damaged? If not I am wondering if the pressure relief valve could be stuck, seem odd to blow that many lines. Best of luck getting things straightened out.

killamplanes

Sorry to hear about your bad luck. If I were you look for a small engine shop locally. There's nothing overly difficult  on the b-20.  I would think any experienced small engine shop could resolve these problems.  Keep us updated
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ladylake

 I think I've blown less than 10 hyd lines in 15 years and 13000 hours, either the sun got them or as mentioned a relief valve is stuck.  I'd get a good stock of new 3/8  hose with jic 6 female fittings from the surplus center, good hoses that are reasonable.  These hoses are easy to change.  As most have found out if you own a mill its best to learn how to fix it. Once up and running the B20 is really reliable.  I've had to replace the bottom limit switch once, I keep a spare now the I found online really reasonable.  Don't be afraid to call Mike at TK, he knows these mills.   Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

Ga Mtn Man

Don't let it get you down.  Take one problem at a time and you will soon have a working mill.  TK mills are fairly simple to work on.  An as Steve said, call Mike.
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pineywoods

+1 on the surplus center hydraulic hoses. Used them for homemade hydraulics on a tractor and 3 sawmills. From what you are saying, the outside layer of the hoses is cracked from exposure. that lets in water which rusts out the wire braid, that is where the strength is. Electrical problems on a mill that has sat unused, suspect mice. They have a taste for wire insulation..
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Will_Johnson

Yep give us a call at 1-800-942-4406 and we will try to help. Mike knows the B-20 like the back of his hand, as does Jason. Have your serial number handy -- we will need this to get the right parts and we will also be able to tell you how old the mill is.

swampbuggy

I can stop by on my way back to Fla. in October! The B20 I bought was wired backwards and fried the setworks and the electrical reel. The head was 1 inch out of level. All easy fixes with the help of TK and LadyLake. Good luck.
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it!

wewacountryboy

Thanks everyone. It's been a while, and I justseen y'alls  comments. I found part of my problem this weekend. I have tacked it down in the wires going to my setworks. I was able to bypass them and it works fine now. As far as my hydraulic line issues, I just bit the bullet and bought the complete kit from Timberking. Other than my setworks issues, it cuts like a brand new machine. It sure is a major upgrade from my Baker 18M! :new_year: :new_year:
Jonathan Hanson

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