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Northeast log prices

Started by Blackcanyon, June 20, 2019, 05:53:10 AM

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Blackcanyon

I looked briefly into log prices recently and was quite disturbed to see they appeared about the same as when I logged full time about 13 years ago. Is there any hot species, etc that people know of right now?

WDH

Hardwood market is depressed right now.  The trade battle with china has impacted the volume of US logs being imported by China which was a big customer.  Best two species per the Hardwood Market Report are soft maple and yellow poplar.  Red oak and especially cherry are in the dumps.  Walnut is off, and white oak is slow but steady. Interestingly, soft maple prices are as high or a bit higher than hard maple prices.  These comments refer to lumber not logs, but lumber comes from logs.
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Blackcanyon

I also heard that tariffs are affecting the Canadian markets as well

ehp

my prices have not changed in 2 years , its so wet up here mills are having a hard time to find logs

NamN

China has been impacting the prices of logs but I haven't seen it actually anywhere, just through the grapevine for me.
I had a gentleman here ask $650/MBF of Red Oak, while over in the US I've been hearing reports of $290/MBF (Florida?).

Despite the trade war between US and China (Canada is heading there) there are ways around it. Just my 0.02

ehp

I feel we all are going to see log prices drop more yet and my prices as well going down, I know there is no way the mill can keep paying the same log price for stuff like red oak or hard maple that Im getting , mill has to make money as well or there will be no mill period

nativewolf

Quote from: ehp on June 28, 2019, 07:30:03 PM
I feel we all are going to see log prices drop more yet and my prices as well going down, I know there is no way the mill can keep paying the same log price for stuff like red oak or hard maple that Im getting , mill has to make money as well or there will be no mill period
I got a note from AMEX saying that the RO situation stabilized and that they had taken off limits on RO deliveries.  Now they don't pay well (to me) for RO but at least they are taking all anyone sends them.  Maybe that means we've seen a bottom on RO.  Frankly I would make more per truck load selling it for tie logs at $60/ton than selling at prices I have heard.  
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Quote from: ehp on June 28, 2019, 07:30:03 PM
I feel we all are going to see log prices drop more yet and my prices as well going down, I know there is no way the mill can keep paying the same log price for stuff like red oak or hard maple that Im getting , mill has to make money as well or there will be no mill period
I think the 30% exchange is definitely helping us in that regard. 
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ehp

ya Im getting a lot more money than $60 a ton for red oak, on my good first and second logs Im only $200/1000 less than veneer , yes our low buck value is helping us that is forsure , now if we could get someone in Ottawa that would help us instead of hurting us on the world market that would be nice to

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