iDRY Vacuum Kilns

Sponsors:

Formula for stump killer

Started by metalman1, December 28, 2019, 08:58:42 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

metalman1

Hi,

Years ago I knew a forester who tole me a good mix for stump (or tree) killer was trichlopyr 20% and gasoline 80% by volume. But recently I bought some trichlopyr at HD and the mixture does not blend nicely together, it seperates. I have been using it by shaking the mixture vigorously just before dipping then brush in it, then painting that onto the stump. Is there some other way to get these to blend together? 

Maybe gas is not the ideal solvent/carrier? 

Thanks. 

Magicman

Triclopyr ester is a systemic herbicide, absorbed by the plant and ... 20-30% in basal oil, diesel fuel, fuel oil, or kerosene, not gasoline.
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

metalman1

Quote from: Magicman on December 28, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
Triclopyr ester is a systemic herbicide, absorbed by the plant and ... 20-30% in basal oil, diesel fuel, fuel oil, or kerosene, not gasoline.
Thanks, Magic. So, in your opinion, using any of the above except gas will mix completely, and not separate like oil/vinegar?

Magicman

I did a Google search and captured that information.

I would think that a bit of surfactant such as dish shop, etc. might also help to break it down to an emulsion that would stay fixed.
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

metalman1

Quote from: Magicman on December 28, 2019, 12:19:26 PM
I did a Google search and captured that information.

I would think that a bit of surfactant such as dish shop, etc. might also help to break it down to an emulsion that would stay fixed.
Good to know. Thanks. 

WDH

Yes, you can use diesel fuel or crop oil.  I have used the diesel. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

Pullinchips

I personally would use 50/50 diesel and triclopyr . With herbicide, FOLLOW THE LABEL! ITS THE LAW. This is actually listed on the label. You can also use it 100% I believe. But don't quote me or take anyone elses word. Read the label. You are liable for chemical you apply and any damage that you may cause from in correct application. Now tryclopyr is not as nasty a herbicide as some of the others like velpar or Streamline or some of the other super nasties that can volotilize and hang in creek bottoms and move down hill.


I am telling you this advice as a licensed herbicide applicator.
Resident Forester
US Army Corps of Engineers: Savannah District

Clemson Forestry Grad 2004
MFR Clemson University 2006
Stihl MS 390

Al_Smith

An old trick that may or may not work  is powdered milk all over the stump and covered with a tarp .If conditions are right it will sprout mushrooms .Given enough time the stump will disappear . 

RPF2509

Pullinchips is right - Read the label - its the LAW.  Never mix with gasoline!  The ester formulation will mix with oil (diesel, crop oil).  The amine formulation will mix with water.  Both work when applied according to the LABEL.  READ the Label for the mixture that works on the species you want to treat.  I am a licensed agricultural advisor.  READ the LABEL! and follow its recommendations

Al_Smith

My dad told me about using "saltpeter " a really old method that evidently worked . I have saturated them with diesel fuel and built a fire over them that does work but it might take several tries to get it burned down below grade .
Depends on the tree .A maple will go by itself in a couple of years .An eab killed ash the roots will fail after about 5 years .An oak might stay longer than you might live .I've got a red oak stump I know is over 30 years old and it's solid as granite  still .

Thank You Sponsors!