Guidance needed on building around existing pole shed

[sampotter]

Hello experts-
I have been lurking awhile now, trying to find ideas for how to build a post and beam gambrel roofed barn with lean-tos off each side around an existing pole shed. Here's my basic plan, tell me if I'm crazy:

The existing pole shed was built in 1970 and is 32 x 64 with ~12' eaves. The posts are all rotting off at the bottom and although the pole shed is functional, it is a little rough looking for my liking. I'd also like some more space of course too.
What I'd like to do is build the aforementioned post and beam barn around it in stages as time allows. This could take a couple years. The overall footprint would be 58 x 66.

Initially I would build the lean-tos first by setting posts on concrete pillars in sonotubes one foot outside the current structure and temporarily tying the roof into the pole shed's. Once I have both lean-tos built I would tear down the pole shed and erect the actual barn, using the inside posts of the lean-tos as the outer posts for the barn.

I have limited time- I work on a farm 60+ hours a week. I've tried to figure out what size timbers I need, but honestly am not in love with the planning part and get lost when trying to figure it all out. I feel like I would better off if I could find plans or someone that could point me in the right direction. I'd rather spend my time getting dirty and making stuff than sitting at a computer. Can anyone steer me to the right resources?

[doc henderson]

when it is all done, will there be any part of the original pole shed left?

[doc henderson]

welcome to the forum.  we will try to wait 5 to 10 posts before we tell you that you are crazy! :D :D :D

[CCCLLC]

Funny Doc!  I think it would be a great idea, although uncovetional. Those outside sheds would be good solid bracing as the larger barn is being built, not to mention dry.

[doc henderson]

I agree.  i am not a timber frame guy, but i did something like that with stick built framing.  i was keeping 2 buildings and building the gambrel 2 story barn between them.  sometimes if all the old stuff is going away, it is easier to start from scratch.  we had 5 acres.  2 lots.  the old guy built a house at one end, and a "shop" at the other end, build like a ranch house.  with several other sheds nearby, i Incorporated them all into one big shop.  also a 3 story lookout with a gambrel roof and spiral stairs.  could see for miles.  looked like and old milking barn from "back east".  his plan was when he retired, he would finish the shop as another house to sell off, to support him and his wife.  he retired too late and died too soon.  When I bought the place from his wife in her 80s, I asked her what he did.  In a thick German accent she said, "anyting he wanted and not a Dam ting else" !  profound.

[sampotter]

when it is all done, will there be any part of the original pole shed left?

No, pole shed will ultimately come down. I have sheep and hay in it now, so I can't really afford to tear it all down first and start with a bare pad.

[sampotter]

welcome to the forum.  we will try to wait 5 to 10 posts before we tell you that you are crazy! :D :D :D

Thanks, I have a habit of making all kinds of gadgets and gizmos as I need them. Growing up farming, you need to learn to be a Macgyver really quick.

[Don P]

Is there enough room to build the new barn at either end of the existing, you would get close use of the dry building but not be hampered by it.

[sampotter]

Yes, planning to give myself enough room to work around it.