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Started by Dana Stanley, September 03, 2020, 05:44:48 PM

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goose63

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if you find your self in a deep hole stop digging
saw logs all day what do you get lots of lumber and a day older
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Quote from: Don P on September 04, 2020, 07:37:21 AM

I like deep fried sushi.
Same here.  Deep fried and breaded, hold the seaweed
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barbender

I've always called them timber shrimp, Magicman has the right idea in his picture. It looks like the southern timber shrimp would be more of the "jumbo" variety, much larger than in MN😊
  I'm not following why a few borer holes would preclude the lumber being used for structural- look at a poor 2x4 in a wall, in a house. Sometimes there is more hole than board😁
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Tempo is an insectide great stuff for, Asian beetles, Democrat bugs(couldn't resist  :D)(Democrat  bug is a name for Box Elder bugs here and there) crickets and spiders around the house etc.  The Permethrin SFR is labeled  for spraying around wood piles to knock down bugs, I can't remember  the exact  directions  with out rereading the package insert. We sell it for livestock and premise spraying.

barbender

Good ol' diesel fuel sprayed on the logs will keep them from getting infested,  it you have to keep the rain off of them. Borax works too, same issue though- it will wash off.
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Dana Stanley

how about mild mix of bleach and water? Seems like that would cause them to move on. I stripped most of the ones that I had from before(the blue painted) I think I might power wash and spray with mild bleach, before I stack and organize them. I am separating into knotty and nice, big and small. This is what I got done this morning.


 
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moodnacreek

And this is why the old timers sad you do not cut saw logs spring or summer.

mike_belben

Put em in a jar with water and vinegar.  Changes PH and kills a lot of stuff.  Especially cucumbers.  You ever see a pickle still squirming around in the jar when you open it?

Nope.


Add dill and salt to taste. 
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Bruno of NH

I'm with WDH
I have no issues selling it in 1x
I have a list of customers that want it.
I can also sell poplar firewood with explanation that it's just camp wood and fire pit wood.
After it leaves here I don't care what it's used for.
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Dana Stanley

I got about 1/2 of them debarked. This will allow me to get them all off the ground and organized! I thought if I wash them it will get rid of any of the nutrients they are looking for, and the mild bleach will be a deterant too! 
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barbender

Once they are in it, they are going to bore until they molt and come out as beetles. Unless you can get something down in the holes that kills them. If your concerned about the holes, the answer is to saw them immediately.
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Don P

Quote from: barbender on September 04, 2020, 09:35:09 AMI'm not following why a few borer holes would preclude the lumber being used for structural- look at a poor 2x4 in a wall, in a house. Sometimes there is more hole than board😁
Good call, here's the interpretation, I usually start reading in the interpretations section to understand and then go back to the specific rules for a grade with that interpretation in mind;

1.6.1 Insect Holes: Pin holes, grub holes and toredo holes are
handled on an "equivalent smaller" basis. Equivalent
smaller shall mean that the area occupied by all pin, grub
and teredo holes shall be added together and treated as
the maximum size hole permitted. For example, twelve ΒΌ"
holes shall be treated the same as one 1" hole. The poorest face shall govern.


Here's a link to the manual online, we use the same rules here in the US.

http://nlga.org/en/publications-for-download/

What we were told in class was go very conservative on insect holes, its hard to tell how much they have wandered around. For instance the grader that checks here said no powderpost holes, he has to assume they've riddled it inside. With these grubs its usually pretty easy to tell the extent of the damage.

Magicman

All of my today's logs had small sawyer worms and many termites.  The logs had been on the ground for a couple of months with no damage.



 
Here is what the ground looked like underneath the logs.  Many little piles of sawdust/frass.  We knocked the bark off and rolled them onto the sawmill.  Not a problem.  Gotta be careful with the slick logs and bark because you will bust your butt log.  :o
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Quote from: Magicman on September 04, 2020, 09:38:53 PM
All of my today's logs had small sawyer worms and many termites.  The logs had been on the ground for a couple of months with no damage.

Here is what the ground looked like underneath the logs.  Many little piles of sawdust/frass.  We knocked the bark off and rolled them onto the sawmill.  Not a problem.  Gotta be careful with the slick logs and bark because you will bust your butt log.  :o
Ya there were piles of long sawdust strands under my logs, and under the bark. Slick bark; at one point today my tractor wheels were spinning ,but no forward motion. Plus I slipped like on black ice! so much fun!!
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Walnut Beast

Dana I hope things go a little better for you. What you said in response to Magicman was just 😂😂😂

WDH

When you see that sawdust on under pine logs that have been laying awhile, that is from the ambrosia beetle.  Peel the bark off and the wood looks good, saw the wood and then as it dries, miraculously, the next day or so the ambrosia beetles that were in the wood unbeknownst to you, exit stage right leaving more little piles of sawdust. 
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Stephen1

Don't waste your time trying to treat them. Saw them ASAP.
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Dana Stanley

So I pealed the bark on half of it, and no gnawing sound from that pile, un like the pile with the bark on, which is a symphony of gnawing! Will work on that tomorrow!
 
Making Sawdust, boards and signs.
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Kabota B-7800 with backhoe and loader
Ford Ranger, Husqvarna 455 20", Mac 610 24", other chainsaws 14", 23 ton log splitter
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