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Started by TimW, April 12, 2025, 06:37:55 PM

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TimW

I have a potential customer that wants 3x9x9 beams.  At first she wanted 2x12x8.  Then she realized I can saw exactly what she needs.  It is a small order of 14 beams.  I called and talked to her.  She sounds like an artist or interior decorator.  She then mentioned Cedar and wanted it in that.  I explained I don't have that big or enough ERC onhand and that would be 3x the price I quoted for pine..
  We settled on a price and now she wants them planed.  I have never cut and planed undried SYP.  Can it be done?  The trees were cut down about a month ago.   Also, I think she said her budget is $20 a board.
What is a good price per board feet for planing 3x9x9s?  This would be my first ever planing for a customer.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

beenthere

Do what you want, but I would tell her the bandsaw cut is likely going to be good enough and be $25 per beam but you would settle for $20. 
That the planing would be an extra charge if needed.
south central Wisconsin
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doc henderson

If i charge, it is 100 bucks and hour.  unloading loading, debating what they want.  planning.  If they help it goes faster so they can save some money.  if you provide the log then there should be something for that.  by the board foot, the customer may pay a lot for 4 cuts to get to the final dimension of the beam.  make something for yourself and I am sure you will be fair.
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

scsmith42

You're going to have problems attempting to plane green material. There will be lots of tear-out and it usually does not go well.

I would pass on planing if I were you. At $1 per board foot, you're ok on the price for milling the pine but no way would I plane them too.
Peterson 10" WPF with 65' of track
Smith - Gallagher dedicated slabber
Tom's 3638D Baker band mill
and a mix of log handling heavy equipment.

GAB

Tim:
The  3x9x9 beams: Are those dimensions intended to be off the mill or is that supposed to be a dried and finished dimension?

Scott:
Would sanding cause as much tearout as planing?
GAB
W-M LT40HDD34, SLR, JD 420, JD 950w/loader and Woods backhoe, V3507 Fransguard winch, Cordwood Saw, 18' flat bed trailer, and other toys.

TimW

3x9x9 finished dimension.
I'm not gonna sand anything.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Quote from: scsmith42 on April 12, 2025, 07:42:49 PMYou're going to have problems attempting to plane green material. There will be lots of tear-out and it usually does not go well.

I would pass on planing if I were you. At $1 per board foot, you're ok on the price for milling the pine but no way would I plane them too.
I agree on not planing them.  She called when I was knee high in sawdust and really, I don't think that fast on my feet.  I need to hunker down and cogitate on it.  Once I got to the house and started this thread, I realized......You don't plane green wood.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

scsmith42

Quote from: GAB on April 12, 2025, 07:52:22 PMTim:
The  3x9x9 beams: Are those dimensions intended to be off the mill or is that supposed to be a dried and finished dimension?

Scott:
Would sanding cause as much tearout as planing?
GAB

No, but green pine will really gum up the sandpaper quickly.
Peterson 10" WPF with 65' of track
Smith - Gallagher dedicated slabber
Tom's 3638D Baker band mill
and a mix of log handling heavy equipment.

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