What's this one? solved: Sesbania vesicaria Bagpod

Tom · September 19, 2003, 10:13:29 PM

It was a tall weed about 4 feet tall that looked like a small tree with flowers.

Tell us something interesting about it.

Bro. Noble · September 20, 2003, 04:26:12 AM

We don't have anything like that around here. First I thought it was a fern, but ferns don't have flowers. Then I decided it was a legume. We have little legumes that look a little like that but they only get a few inches tall. If you toutch them in the midribm they fold up. I think they call them bashful bush because of that trait. Do these plants do that?

Tom · September 20, 2003, 06:20:20 AM

yep, they close up at night but don't to the touch. Maybe when they are re-e-a-l small.

Bro. Noble · September 20, 2003, 09:45:04 AM

Maybe somekinda pea or vetch----------they,re legumes.

Tom · September 20, 2003, 08:32:53 PM

You're Warm :D

LeeB · September 20, 2003, 10:20:35 PM

some type of acacia maybe?

Tom · September 20, 2003, 10:50:32 PM

nope, not an acacia

Stephen_Wiley · September 21, 2003, 12:10:27 AM

Hogpotato - Hoffmanseggia densiflora .........Flowers appear like however, height may be..............

Goatsrue................... Flower don't look right........????????

Tom · September 21, 2003, 08:28:17 AM

As best as I can find, it is a Tephrosia of some sort. I found Goats Rue to have the closest image of the plant but these are tall. They regularly come up in disturbed ground and around trash fire sites. Tephrosia Florida and T. Virgiana are nearest matches that I can find. I'm still looking.

Stephen_Wiley · September 21, 2003, 02:54:45 PM

Goats Rue can grow to 5 feet.............these are taller?

Tom · September 21, 2003, 03:03:14 PM

This one was not that tall but I have had them in my log yard that were 5 or 6 feet tall.

Tom · September 21, 2003, 09:15:59 PM

By the way, Welcome to the Forum. I'm sure remiss for letting it go this long. You're pretty hot on this ID thing, eh? Doin' good! :D

Look forward to your hanging around and gettin ivolved.

Stephen_Wiley · September 22, 2003, 12:12:03 PM

All though a smaller plant, the one at this site seems to match............still the flowers in you pic. seem more yellow!

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/images/TephrVi.htm

My vote is still for: Tephrosia / Goatsrue.

I have been reading your forum for sometime now, decided to join the fun.

Tom · September 23, 2003, 10:13:30 AM

Yeah Stephen, I've about come to the conclusion that it is Goats Rue too. I think that is what we will declare it. :D

Tom · March 17, 2007, 07:24:55 PM

We have a new answer to the question. Swamp Donkey came up with this identification that better fits the plant. It was researched in the thread "Whatzits from the secret pond" when Jeff came to Florida. The consensus is that Swamp Donkey is right-on with his identification of Sesbania vesicaria Bagpod.

Information shows that the green plant is un-palatable to ruminates (cows and goats), but, the seeds of the dried plant are poison and will kill cattle. It is easily controlled with mowing and suffers from competition.