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Shopping for a New Plunge Router

Started by Norm, January 29, 2007, 06:00:11 PM

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4woody

Good luck i hope you dont have any troubles out of it i tried to of the saw an no luck two saw four houses thats not good an they was new

Kevin

Way to go Norm!
Let me know what it's like, I'm in the mood to buy one myself, been looking at the Freud FT3000VCE 3-1/4 HP Variable Speed Plunge Router .

Don_Papenburg

Don't go buying them routers just yet Norm.  Take a look at the big yellow router from down under  .  I think it is called a Tridon  or something like that .  I have read several reveiws of it and all were positive .      I would consider the Bosch also I have a buddy that has some of them .  He makes his living with them  doing custom wood work.       I have the old PC 3hp plunge and three 690 fixed base routers plus a palm grip Milwalkee.  I like the palm grip for long routing jobs.   My opinion is that If I were to buy a new plunge router it would be  Bosch or  Tridon
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woodbeard

I have the 3612 Makita, I like it a lot. It does start smooth, and the speed control works well, but the control knob doesnt always stay where I set it. I usually have to tape it in place so it doesn't slow down on me. Also,the plunge lock has slipped on me at times, but this may just be something I need to adjust, hopefully not with tape. ;D Other than that, it plunges well, the switch is easy to use and not positioned where it can be bumped on, and the collet works well.
That Hitachi looks like something out of a cheezy sci-fi show. Hopefully thats not the only upgrade they made to the old clunky models that it seems to have evolved from.

Tony

Quote from: Don_Papenburg on January 31, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
Don't go buying them routers just yet Norm.  Take a look at the big yellow router from down under  .  I think it is called a Tridon  or something like that .  I have read several reveiws of it and all were positive .

I think it's Triton??? ??? ::)    Fine Woodworking said it was the best :P


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Don_Papenburg

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brdmkr

Norm,

I really like my older model Hitachi M12V.  I have not had a lick of trouble out of it.  The only thing I do not like about it is that it will not handle really large bits due to a smaller hole in the base.   For such a big router, I wish the opening were larger.   I think the new model will handle larger bits.  Supposedly this new router is a substantial IMPROVEMENT over mine.  If it is, you will be happy.

I don't know you, and I wouldn't dare want to offend, but the one thing that I think is wrong with the new Hitachi is.... IT IS UGLY  :D  But hey, looks don't route, and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder ;)!

I'm sure you'll be pleased.  Let us know what you think.
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Norm

Thanks for that brdmkr, I did get the hitachi in yesterday. It was frozen hard as a rock so I'll not get to use it until today. The one thing that I didn't like was the looks of it. It kind of reminded me of something Tim Allen would use. :D

I did look at the triton but had never heard of it before so was kind of leary of it. It only had two reviews on amazon so I thought I'd stick with the hitachi which got good reviews also.

It sure is nice to have a woodworking section here now. I've always been intimidated by the other sites for woodworkers being a rookie at it and all. Thanks for all the help folks.

brdmkr

Quote from: Norm on February 03, 2007, 08:31:21 AM
It sure is nice to have a woodworking section here now. I've always been intimidated by the other sites for woodworkers being a rookie at it and all. Thanks for all the help folks.

You know, I drop in on a couple of the woodworking sites just to get ideas, but one of the sites some of the comments can be downright rude.  There is another site that requires that you post under your real name.  Folks there are pretty friendly to one another.  In a way, it reminds me of this site, only devoted entirely to woodworking.

Good luck with the Tim Allen special ;D 
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DR Buck

Didn't see any own up to having the DeWalt.   ::)

  Well, I've got the 2 HP DeWalt 621 and it meets my needs OK.   I haven't used it with any large bits freehand, but it handles them OK mounted under the table.   I've done most of my freehand routing with my really old Craftsman 1hp unit.  It's getting near the end though.   

Other than the torque kick at startup the DeWalt is fairly stable and not real hard to keep under control.

Here's the DW-621 link  DeWalt Plunge Router
Been there, done that.   Never got caught [/b]
Retired and not doing much anymore and still not getting caught

metalspinner

Dr buck,

I'll own up to it.  I have the Dewalt, but it's the 625.  It works fine in it's current obligation.  It's  set up in a jointer /planer rig for my really big boards.  It's a little cumbersom trying to use it handheld, but I have the porter cable multi base for that sort of stuff.


I do what the little voices in my wife's head tell me to do.

brdmkr

Metalspinner,

What kind of bit do you use in your planing rig?  Is it just a standard straight bit or have you found something better?  I have always wondered if I could find a bit similar to what Lucas sells for their surfacer.
Lucas 618  Mahindra 4110, FEL and pallet forks, some cant hooks, and a dose of want-to

metalspinner

1 1/4 straight bit.  It's just the biggest I found locally.  I saw a 2 1/4" in a catalogue once, maybe Grizzley.  It was not a straight bit, but it only needs to be flat on the bottom.
I do what the little voices in my wife's head tell me to do.

Raphael

  I'm quite happy with the performance of my Fein RT1800, the switch is right there at your finger tips.  Plunge is a little stiff but can be adjusted.  I've heard good things about the Freud FT3000, almost went that way myself...
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and the truth hit him like a man with no parachute.
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tcsmpsi

Plunge router?   
Well, I always tried to keep mine from taking plunges, but from time to time, gotta start somewhere.   :D

Back over in another small shop I have an old Black and Decker industrial model mounted in a table.  Both these specimens work real well, though I didn't get a pic of the B&D setup.

I've looked a bit at some of these newer router set ups, and I can't hardly tell which end goes where.   :D



I've also got another base and a door hinge jig for this Porter Cable.  Don't know what I'd do if I had to actually replace either of my routers.  What I've seen available is not real inspiring. 
\\\"In the end, it is a moral question as to whether man applies what he has learned or not.\\\" - C. Jung

Kevin

The Freud is a beauty!
Soft start whines up like a jet engine.


tcsmpsi

Hey Norm

Have you had a chance to use your new Hitachi router?

Sorting through applications, shapers, etc., completely contrary to my post above (well, sort of), I went ahead a purchased a new router.  More hp, and ability to use bigger, more diverse bits.

When WDH was down the other day, we were over in that part of the shop and mentioned, looking over my old Porter Cable router that it was an old one.  He asked me how old, and thinking about it, I told him about 50 yrs old.   Got to looking at my owner's manual for it, and it is actually a bit over 50. 

I haven't used it yet, but I did purchase a Makita 3612, that I intend to set up in a table.

Speaking of which, has anyone used one of the table saw extension router tables?  Space and maneuverability are of notable concern at the present time. 

I did get a new Hitachi table saw to take the spot of my old Delta, which I believe will accomodate a good sized router table. 

I got the designated circuit run for the Hitachi Sat., and though I've only ripped a couple boards through it, it is going to be a notable improvement over the old Delta.

\\\"In the end, it is a moral question as to whether man applies what he has learned or not.\\\" - C. Jung

Norm

I haven't had a chance to run it yet tcsmpsi. I opened the box and went hummm looks complicated...probably should put the owners manual under my pillow and sleep on it.  :D

The Makita was my first choice but it was on backorder through amazon (free 2 day shipping) so I went with the Hitachi. Be interested to how you like it after some use.

tcsmpsi

Likewise, Norm.

I've never had a plunge router.  There weren't no such critter last time I bought a router.   ;)

I ordered the 3612 from toolsforless.com.  No shipping, in stock and they sent along with it, a nice 3 pc. Makita raised panel door kit.  For 259., I could hardly say no.

I've looked the thing over, dissected it, believe I have a pretty good idea of its workings.

The male teenager left at the house, is showing some propensity of interest in the whole woodworking process, and he would need his own router to learn to live with.

I'm still eyeing the Hitachi.    ;D
\\\"In the end, it is a moral question as to whether man applies what he has learned or not.\\\" - C. Jung

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