iDRY Vacuum Kilns

Sponsors:

It's called popple/poplar here.

Started by Dana, October 22, 2007, 10:05:19 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Dana

I have posted that I need poplar logs. Questions have risen as to what exact variety I need. So here is a few photo's of what I'm looking for. Help giving the correct name for them would be appreciated. Note that the lumber is snow white, not green like the popple available in more southern states.
Grass-fed beef farmer, part time sawyer

Gary_C

Thru out northern MN and WI the mills that are the predominant buyers of pulp and most of the loggers that supply the pulp have lumped all aspen into one category that is commonly called popple. It does include Big Tooth and Quaking or Trembling Aspen as well as Cottonwood along with other variations like Balm of Gilead. I think the biggest reason is because there so many variations in appearance of the bark that without the leaves and twigs available, it is very difficult to distinguish the difference in species. And who cares anyways because they have essentially the same properties when making pulp.

What you have there in your pictures is Big Tooth Aspen. The other aspens would work just fine as long as they did not have soft or hollow centers but the chances of getting those solid centers in other Aspens in the diameters you are seeking are not good.

So to get a similiar wood, just specify Aspen in the diameters you need and make sure you specify how much soft centers and knots you can tolerate.

As Jeff indicated, it can be hard to find those larger high quality aspen logs and you may have to pay a lot to get them. Many loggers do not want to sort plus, at least in my area, not as much aspen is being cut as the pulp mills are either shut down or severely restricting deliveries of aspen. In past years, I have seen some of the nicest 20-24 inch aspen logs you could imagine being sent to the pulp mills by hardwood mills because they do not want to bother with them.

Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

beenthere

Dana
I think you want aspen...as what you've shown. Drop the misnomer poplar.  It confuses the issue. ;D ;D
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

Reddog

I agree with Gary,

Big tooth Aspen is what you have pictured.
Or the Latin name Populus grandidentata.
Which is were the slang name popple comes from for the family of trees used for pulpwood.


Dana

Thanks guys, I will try to modify my wanted ad to read Big Tooth Aspen. :)
Grass-fed beef farmer, part time sawyer

Max sawdust

Yup that is big tooth aspen. 

Some people call it Poplar too, in Northern WI. 
max
True Timbers
Cedar Products-Log & Timber Frame Building-Milling-Positive Impact Forestscaping-Cut to Order Lumber

Ron Scott

Yes, big tooth aspen. We sort a lot here into sawlogs, scrag logs, pulpwood, and chipwood depending upon size and quality.
~Ron

SwampDonkey

Actually, aspen is populus, thus poplar or popple. Tulip tree isn't even a poplar it's a magnolia species, don't know how it got started. Some stuff is hard to figure.  :-\
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

beenthere

SD
That helps add to the confusion.. ::) ::)
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

SwampDonkey

Just common sense actually. But, arguing over the use of local common names is useless in my opinion.

Some old timers here group red spruce with black spruce, one in the same to them.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Tom

that's OK swampdonkey.  You should try to carry on a conversation with a lot of the loggers around here.  It's either Pine, cedar, cypress  or Hardwood. :D

SwampDonkey

Heard one the other day. Yellow ash. Ya they use it for basket handles. Yup yellow ash he said. Yup that's what they use, yellow ash.

I wonder who started that one?  ::)
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

SwampDonkey

Well I discovered that poplar is Middle English and Old French and not slang or a misnomer at all, for the latin populus.

According to Webster and others I found on the internet.



Note: Tulip Tree is also mentioned, or the wood of tulip tree.

And popple is a local dialect for populus

"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Corley5

Had a firewood guy selling basswood as soft ash one year.  Just one year  ;) ;D
Burnt Gunpowder is the Smell Of Freedom

Jeff

Anudder one of dem dat dont know his ash from his pophole. :)
Just call me the midget doctor.
Forestry Forum Founder and Chief Cook and Bottle Washer.

Commercial circle sawmill sawyer in a past life for 25yrs.
Ezekiel 22:30

Max sawdust

SD,
That is interesting.  I have heard Foresters in my neck of the woods refer to Aspen as Poplar.  Up till know I always found that weird that the educated tree experts would use slang  :o
Guess I am da one getting an education ;)
max
True Timbers
Cedar Products-Log & Timber Frame Building-Milling-Positive Impact Forestscaping-Cut to Order Lumber

Thank You Sponsors!