A couple trees to ID

[LeeB]

Is a cucumber tree in the same family as magnolia? Kinda looks like it to me.

I'll try again. inquiring mind want to know.

[SwampDonkey]

Yes, LeeB they are. Thought someone answered ya, but browsing back through the thread I see ya got missed. ;)

[LeeB]

Thank you. Just trying to continue my eddakation. The picture looked like a Magnolia to me, das why I axed.

[WDH]

Some people call it cucumber magnolia.  It has a nice showy flower.

[Cope]

So, after I posted the additional pics, is it fair to say that the consensus is that tree #2 is a cucumber tree?

[Dodgy Loner]

It's a blackgum.

Your close-ups of the twig have two characteristics that identify it as a blackgum, rather than a cucumbertree.  First, the twig is what is known as a "short shoot", meaning that the leaves are clustered very tightly together, and the stem is elongating very slowly.  Unfortunately, this makes it impossible to distinguish whether or not any stipular scars are encircling the twig, since the leaf scars are packed so tightly together.   However, short shoots are very common on blackgum.  I don't believe they normally occur on magnolias (if they do, it's not very common).  Second, cucumber tree has a very long, narrow, U-shaped leaf scar, much unlike the broad diamond-shaped and half-moon leaf scars on your twigs.  Finally, the undersides of the leaves lack the glaucous coating that one would expect on cucumbertree, but not on blackgum.

I also still believe that the dogwood is a flowering dogwood.  It's definitely not an alternate-leaf dogwood, as evidenced by the opposite leaf arrangement in the second-to-last photo.