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Started by justintimemoto, September 30, 2009, 03:48:00 PM

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justintimemoto

same saw again 660  when i go to pull the saw over the dogs dont catch on the fly wheel to pul it over...so i pull it off and i got no clue how the thing works can some one explain because sometimes it catches and sometimes it dont  idk
ms660 372xp 455 rancher

2006 suzuki rm 125 for sale

teddy

When you say dogs, do you mean prowls(little plastic catches to in gage the fly wheel)?
If so, I had I have that problem with my 066's. take the starter off and remove butterfly clip that holds the prowls.
Clean all those little plastic pieces of debris and check for wear! if you see no wear then shoot them with some grease less lube.
That worked for me, hope it's something simple like that for you!
Matt

Cut4fun

If your 2 plastic pawls isn't the problem. Look for a flat wear area on your metal spring butterfly clip.
Had a 084 that was catching only every now and then and mine ended up being the metal clip.

joe_indi

Hold the rewind starter by itself and pull the rope out smoothly.
The two whitish pawls should move outwards .If this is not happening,check if the the holding spring / clip is also moving along with the rest of the stuff that rotates? 

If the clip is  moving, the three probable causes are:
a) The pawls are not able to move freely. Clean the pawls and their seats so that they move freely.
b) The clip is worn out.You could try bending it a bit more.But not a remedy in most cases.A new clip is the solution.
c) The groove on the shaft for the clip is worn out.If this is the reason, on the 066 the shaft is  available as a spare part.
If you unable to buy a new clip or a shaft immediately and you need to use that saw, here is a very simple solution, purely temporary, but it might work for some time.For quite some time hopefully.
Rub some epoxy resin onto a few inches of sewing thread and wind it in the clockwise direction into the groove of the shaft (where the clip goes in). A couple of turns will do. Re-install the pawls , the washer and the clip.
Do not lubricate the clip
Try the starter now.It should work okay now.
This is a 'sure-cure' I use often.

Joe

teddy

Joe's RIGHT!
The prowls I use a grease-less lube(but only on the prowls!!!!!
Wipe off the excess! I think my problems started on that when I got some debris in the starter assembly! Then the prowls just mashed it into the tab recesses of the prowls! I tried to lightly sand it and that was a disaster.
But Joe's right, don't grease the clip or lube it! I sprayed my fingers then applied it to the prowl tabs only!!!!
Matt

justintimemoto

k thanks i got to stop at the saw shop tomorrow anyhow t o get new boots :)
ms660 372xp 455 rancher

2006 suzuki rm 125 for sale

simonmeridew

What needs to happen is that the clip needs to grab the shaft a little harder. To do this, grab the clip straight end(the one that clips onto the shaft) with a needle nose plier, and grab the clip a little further along, after it makes the 90 degree bend with another needle nose pliers,. and bend the clip so that the angle is less. This will make the clip grab tighter. Don't try to  tighten it by squeezing the loop tighter, that will just make it bind up on the little pin on the pawl.

When you install the clip on the shaft, make sure you have it the right side up, put the little semicircular part of the clip into the groove of the shaft, then either use your thumb or needle nose pliers, to work the straight part of the clip over the other side of the shaft. Make sure that both the pawl pins are inside the clip, and if you made it tight enough, it should work.
simonmeridew
Kubota L4400, Farmi 351

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