This is kinda wierd

[timberfaller390]

I have been sawing some dry white oak with brand new out of the box blades and have been lucky to make it through a whole log without having to change blades. Yesterday I used some blades that been sharpened by my local sharpening service and got 6 logs on the first blade and quit on the 5th log on the second blade. I'm thinking about taking all my new blades and having them sharpened.

[r.man]

Are the resharps the same make, angle etc.

[timberfaller390]

the brand new blades were all diff. brands. The resharps were simmonds but I had a few new simmonds that were just as bad as the other new blades. They were all on the same angle but the resharps work 100% better.

[Toolman]

Timberfaller,

A few years ago when I had my TK. I ordered a brand new box of blades through them. I had the same issue. The blade barely made it through the log before I had to keep changing blades. It was a hickory that had been sitting for only a few weeks. I called TK and complained. They said a new blade is'nt generally as sharp as one that has been resharpened. I told him that's "Bull". Are u supposed to order new blades plus have them sharpened at the same time? They ended up giving me another box for free. Sounded like to me they had a bad roll of coil stock. Maybe that could be what you are dealing with. I'd definitely call your supplier and complain.

[Tom]

It is possible to have new bands that aren't as sharp as a re-sharpened band and it not be the manufacturer's fault.  Granted, when new bands are "punched out" or ground, they may suffer from a burr being produced or heavy grinding that defeats a clean edge.  But, the usual reason a band is dull is because of handling.  The manufacturer may have an employee who stacks bulk rolls on each other to a height that the tooth tips are dulled from the weight and contact.  The bands may be put on a concrete pad, teeth down by anyone.  They may even be damaged by the unaware sawyer who allows them to bounce around in the back of a pickup with the teeth down, or throws them to open them up.

There was a time when it was recommended by manufacturers to pass the teeth through a sharpener, if possible, before they were put on the mill, to insure that the teeth were sharp. I know we all want a perfect product delivered to us, but when it comes to sharpened implements, like saw blades or knives, we should consider all of the possibilities for the product not meeting our expectations.

A manufacturer who isn't attuned to the sawyer needing sharp blades is setting himself up to be replaced, but it's only fair to realize that we customers can be over-critical too.

[timberfaller390]

I agree, there are many ways a blade can be dulled between manufacture and being put on the mill. What I thought was strange was the fact that all my new blades were from different companies. When I exhausted the supply of blades I got with my mill, I ordered a few from just about every company that offered blades in my size and not one blade from one company performed even close to satisfactory. I just thought it odd that ALL the new blades I got were not performing well.

[Meadows Miller]

Gday

Timberfaller Lennox in pine and hardwood where a good band out of the box for me here mate and i also ran Simmonds aswell but I reckon most bands run alot better after you have given them the first sharpen and sett tuned them up to suit what your doing with them Mate  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8)

I wish i could find the note book i kept of setts and specs i use to run for different woods but im buggered if i can find the bloody thing now   ??? ??? : : it was a handy thing to have  ;) ;D ;D 8)

I also Finnaly found that Cable Logging Handbook  ;) just pm me your postal details and ill send it over for  you to have alook at for a while Mate  ;)

Regards Chris

[ladylake]

 Dry white oak is tough cutting.  A lot of new blades are just stamped out and not sharpened but more manufactors are sharpening new bands now . I wont even use a new band on white oak anymore but that mostly due to the hook angle, my new ones come at 10* and I sharpen them at 4* which cuts nice and straight in tough wood. It might be that your resharp ones have less hook angle.   Steve

[stonebroke]

Why don't you just order 4 degree blades to start with?

Stonebroke

[ladylake]

 The local  shop I get them from only have 10* in Simonds, works fine for me , I run them in easy to saw wood.    I've got my sharpener set so the gullet is the same.   Steve

[captain_crunch]

Don't know about bandsaw blades but I do know a brand new powersaw chain is nowhere as sharp as one that has been ground(chislebit) The mass produceing process don't keep real close tollerances