Re: Monkey saver blades

smwwoody · December 30, 2003, 01:17:26 PM

Ohh yea

THANKS DEADHEADER 8) 8) 8) 8)

ronwood · December 30, 2003, 03:00:33 PM

smwwoody,

"still pushing off 3/8 to 1/2" in the first 6" of the log" Hope I am not asking a dumb question but are you saying that the blade dives that much when entering the log. If so how does it work furthur into the log? If it is diving maybe your are entering the log to quickly.

Thanks
Ron

smwwoody · December 30, 2003, 03:27:50 PM

Ron

push off is when the band rises up in the cut for the first 6 or so inches and stays there for the rest of the cut.
feed rate does not seem to affect it eather on entry or through the rest of the log.

Woody

ronwood · December 30, 2003, 03:41:23 PM

Woody,

Thanks for the info. I have not notice that problem with my mill . It appears that the blade is the problem (blade type, way it was sharpen, set).

I get the diving the problem if the blade is dull or sawing to fast.

Thanks
Ron

Fla._Deadheader · December 30, 2003, 03:53:08 PM

Woody, since we changed to Monkey blades, we have NOT had packed sawdust. Blade goes straight in, straight out. If it is rising, I would adjust the guides down a hair. Even when I get brain dead and start the cut WAYYY too fast, it goes straight in ???

smwwoody · December 31, 2003, 04:57:40 PM

Well I checked my guides today and the were a little out of line. the old bands still push off in the frozen white oak. so i decided to saw out some of the hemlock orderes I have backing up. I cranked the feed rate WAY up from where i normaly saw and that fixed the packed saw dust problem with the monkey band. I guess they like to saw fast.

Deadheader what SFPM are you running the monkey bands at?

Woody

Fla._Deadheader · December 31, 2003, 05:31:08 PM

  Everything being equal, The faster you feed, up to a point, the coarser the dust, and that will keep the blade sharper and throw the dust far away from the machine.
  I figured that we are running close to 5800 sfpm. I want to add a tach-hourmeter, so, I am guessing a bit.

  Being as how we don't get our logs froze too often, I can't comment on the push-off you get. ;D ;D

Minnesota_boy · December 31, 2003, 07:10:15 PM

I mostly saw softwoods, so my answer may be off base, but when I have "push off" it is because one side of the blade has sharper teeth than the other. Sometimes even new blades come this way but it is usually from hitting dirt with only one side of the blade or from running a blade too long, letting it become dull.. A good resharpening should take care of that if the guides are lined up properly, the teeth have the proper set, and the log doesn't have too much stress in it. Occasionally a stressed log will cause a blade to follow the grain, but even then it is usually caused by a blade that isn't sharp enough.

woodmills1 · January 01, 2004, 09:01:22 AM

Any of you found out how many sharpens the monkeys will give before breaking?

Fla._Deadheader · January 01, 2004, 10:13:51 AM

Nope. We cut one down and welded it together and never got it up to speed before it came apart. It was crystalized, even though we hammered it to soften it. :

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I would hope 4-6 sharpens with a lite cut, per blade ??? Doesn't pay to push 'em too far between sharpens.

Neil_B · January 19, 2004, 04:41:03 PM

Well duhhh! :P
Here I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to get some of these blades. Well I visited Kenne Saws site again and floated over the picture of the bands at the right noticed that the good little hand appeared so I clicked on it.

Took me right to MunforSager's main site in Sweden. 8) 8)
Sent them an email inquiring about Canadian dealers so I can get me some so hopefully they get back to me.

They also have all the brochures to download and contacts for tech info and stuff.

Here's the link http://www.munkforssagar.com/