Anyone own a 572 and 461

[OldTimbercutter]

Going to buy a new saw and cant decide between a 461 or the newer 572.   Have always favored stihls and have mostly run 460s last ten years.  have a first gen 372 but have had lots of problems with screws working out.  and have a couple of dolmar 7900s but they just don't feel good in the hands like a 460.

Just wanted to try something different and this 372 seems interesting , and was wondering if anyone had both of these saws running dailey and which one they preferred. 

I cut a lot of big hardwood and need something with the torque to borecut . I run a 20in bar. Which saw is smoothest in the hands as the vibration seems to bother me more than back in the day ? And  I want it to start easy and be reliable , no screws falling out like on the 372.    Thanks

[HolmenTree]

I hear the new 572XP now has the Stihl style lock screws .

[outinthewood]

I have both and the 572 is by far the smoothest, like the 576 before it. I always liked the 461 but found the 576 smoother and as said the 572 better again. I've never had anything fall out or off a 372 so maybe a bit of bad luck ? I ran Stihl's for a long time but just find the Husqvarna range "nicer" to use but that's me. Now to compare the 461 and 572 directly is a little hard as there is a cc difference but I do know the 572 pulls a 28" in hard and soft woods with no problem and is good on fuel. 

[OldTimbercutter]

Thanks for letting me know what you think about these saws.  I used to not notice the vibration but the smoother the better now.  Also want the cleanest burning saw not so much for the environment but for the lungs.  Have been breathing that two stroke smoke for 35 years.  
Does the 572 burn cleaner than the 461?  which one starts the best? 

[ehp]

461 is pretty much a gone saw , 462 took its place . The 462 is smoother on the hands and a lot lighter than the 461 or the 572 but I like all 3 saws and have more than 1 of each . But I feel the 572 is a better built saw than the older 372 , now I have cut a lot of timber with the 372 and for me its a good saw for falling timber with but for a lot of bore cutting to buck trees up I find the mounts way to soft and allow the crankcase to move to much, I much prefer the 461 for that job , the 572 has a better mount system than the 372 for boring

[DelawhereJoe]

All the stihl dealers that I've stopped into in the last month or so don't even have a 462 on the shelf but they all do have the 461 and no one knows anything of the 500i. The 461 is Stihl "rated" for a 32" bar the 462 is only "rated" for a 28 bar, any idea what max size bar you intend to run on the saw ?

[OldTimbercutter]

A 20 inch bar is all I ever run.  Have never wanted anything longer and have cut four foot plus hardwood and its all I need.  Would just get a 461 as I know they are a good saw but have an itch to try  something different and maybe orange. used to be a husky man back in the day. First saw I bought was a 181 and it was a good one. Cut a lot with a 2101 but I wouldn't want to tote one of those around all day now.     I wish they made a big brother to the 572 about 80 cc.  

[hedgerow]

Can't say I have ran a 572 a buddy has run a 372 for years but like you say you have to watch the screws. I have been running a 461 for just over five years and mostly run a 20 inch bar on it in hard wood mostly locust and hedge. Its been a great saw and when a buddy helps me its the only saw he will run. There still seems to be plenty new 461 saws for sale. 

[OldTimbercutter]

Thanks for all the replys .  I will problably get a 461 .  I have a ton of 460 parts and I think a lot will work on the 461.  Just wondering if the 461 is any smoother than the 460s ?  I know the rubber mounts are the same but wondered if the different engine design was smoother running.

[Awesomesince72]

Serious question. I'm curious how to cut a 48" plus log with a 20" bar. Is there a special technique?  Just trying to learn.
Thanks

[HolmenTree]

Serious question. I'm curious how to cut a 48" plus log with a 20" bar. Is there a special technique?  Just trying to learn.
Thanks

Bore cut the apex of the notch as explained in your saws owners manual. You'll need to cut a open face cut notch.


 

[DelawhereJoe]

The bore cut only really works for felling, it doesn't work that well for making firewood. If you have lots of large trees to trun into firewood you may want to consider a saw with a bar big enough to cut it in half from both sides. The biggest tree you can fell is 2.5x bigger then your bar, cutting that log into firewood is less then 2x the size of your bar.

[Pine Ridge]

Holmentree i'm not sure if he's asking how to fall a 48" around tree, or buck a 48" log with a 20" bar, you've got the felling part covered.

[HolmenTree]

Serious question. I'm curious how to cut a 48" plus log with a 20" bar. Is there a special technique?  Just trying to learn.
Thanks

Holmentree i'm not sure if he's asking how to fall a 48" around tree, or buck a 48" log with a 20" bar, you've got the felling part covered.

Pine Ridge,
I gave a opposite approach of an answer to a opposite approach of a question. :D

[Pine Ridge]

Now i'm confused lol !!!!!!

[HolmenTree]

Now i'm confused lol !!!!!!

I was too :D
I was originally thinking about the 48" log cut with a  20 b/c comment.
I was going to suggest using a cant hook with a pipe handle extension to roll the big log over to finish the bored out notch  felling technique.
But that would be just as silly as approaching a 48" log laying on the ground with a 20" bar and chain. :D

Sorry Awesomesince72, I couldn't resist it