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I added a solenoid to my blade lube

Started by kelLOGg, January 16, 2015, 05:19:05 PM

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kelLOGg

I forgot once to many to turn off the diesel drip so I spent the rainy days adding a solenoid. Thanks especially to Jim Rogers for his pics and input. I got the solenoids off of eBay. They are actuated by the drive belt engagement arm (anothe idea I got from someone on FF). I put a latex cap over the plunger to keep moisture and sawdust out.



  

 
Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

Chuck White

That will be a handy addition.

I want to put one on my mill in the not to distant future.
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

Ga Mtn Man

Looks good and is definitely a worthwhile mod.  Did you use two solenoids?  Why?
"If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy." - Red Green


2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

Brucer

I did something similar with my mill. I bought the solenoid that WM uses on their lube-mizer system (I was too cheap to buy the whole system). I was able to wire it up to the drum switch so it only switches on when the carriage is moving forward.

This worked well but I would be dripping lube as I approached the log, so I added an on-off switch as well. There was a knock-out on the control panel for an on-off switch for an optional laser (which I will never need). As it happens, the symbol for the laser on the panel looks a lot like a stream of fluid hitting the side of the log ;D.

Now I pretty much set the lube valve and just rely on the solenoid to switch off the flow when it isn't wanted.
Bruce    LT40HDG28 bandsaw
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers."

kelLOGg

Quote from: Ga Mtn Man on January 16, 2015, 07:38:19 PM
Looks good and is definitely a worthwhile mod.  Did you use two solenoids?  Why?

I lube the blade on the entry side AND and exit side. Probably overkill but... I got caught in a very embarrassing situation when I was sawing very old heart pine beams for an aging old time sawyer neighbor I wanted to do a good job for. Buildup caused all kinds of problems in the cut. This was about 8 years ago and I swore this would not happen again. So I went into OVERKILL mode: wipe before and after, top and bottom of blade. Since then, I have never had build up on pine but have also never sawn pine as pitched as that.
Bob
Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

WV Sawmiller

KLog,

     I'm not real mechanically inclined. What activates the solenoid? is it the clutch arm engaging? Does the arm hold on the button and off when you disengage? Thx for the post. Good info.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

kelLOGg

Yes, it is the clutch arm and, Yes to the rest of your questions. Here's another pic showing the belt engagement lever just an inch or so from hitting the switch.
Bob

 
Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

barbender

Good mod, kelLOGg! Brucer, my '97 LT40 Super is set up just like you modded yours, from the factory. It must have been the original "lubemizer" ;D It is activated off of the drum switch, just like yours. It sure saves on the water.
Too many irons in the fire

Ugly Tree

This is excatly what I was thinking about doing today.  I finished cutting last night and built a big fire and broke out a Mason Jar.  This morning, lube tank was empty. I have a manual mill too, so I am constantly turning the lube on and off while I handle slabs, etc.  Can you tell me what make and model solenoids you got? How much did they run you on ebay?  Where are you pulling power from?
Woodland HM126, Massey Ferguson 3165, 440 and 210 Stihl, a lot of grunt bars.

Jim_Rogers

Quote from: Ugly Tree on January 19, 2015, 07:37:47 PM
This is excatly what I was thinking about doing today.  I finished cutting last night and built a big fire and broke out a Mason Jar.  This morning, lube tank was empty. I have a manual mill too, so I am constantly turning the lube on and off while I handle slabs, etc.  Can you tell me what make and model solenoids you got? How much did they run you on ebay?  Where are you pulling power from?

I got my first solenoid from Napa, a right tank left tank gas tank valve unit. After that I got my from Woodmizer.
I pulled my power from the hot lead on the back of my alternator, then an inline fuse then an on off switch then the push button switch mounted where the clutch lever pushes it down when the blade is sawing. Ground to frame.

Jim Rogers
Whatever you do, have fun doing it!
Woodmizer 1994 LT30HDG24 with 6' Bed Extension

kelLOGg

Quote from: Ugly Tree on January 19, 2015, 07:37:47 PM
This is excatly what I was thinking about doing today.  I finished cutting last night and built a big fire and broke out a Mason Jar.  This morning, lube tank was empty. I have a manual mill too, so I am constantly turning the lube on and off while I handle slabs, etc.  Can you tell me what make and model solenoids you got? How much did they run you on ebay?  Where are you pulling power from?

Here is the eBay link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-Brass-12VDC-Electric-Solenoid-Valve-Water-Air-B20N-/300569711075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fb59d1e3#ht_2275wt_756

Seller shipped very fast. I could have gotten them cheaper but these were for diesel. I took power from the engine battery by connecting near the starter. That way there was no flexing required of the wiring as the sawhead movess up and down. Good luck.
Bob
Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

Ugly Tree

Woodland HM126, Massey Ferguson 3165, 440 and 210 Stihl, a lot of grunt bars.

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