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Started by Ada Shaker, September 04, 2015, 08:49:45 AM

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Ada Shaker

Quote from: beenthere on November 01, 2015, 06:59:48 PM
Seems in some recent thread(s) that the consensus and interpretation of the operator's manual, was to not run wide open throttle unless buried in wood. At least for the first two tanks of fuel.
But that less than WOT in wood wasn't recommended.

The computer in it will make the right adjustments needed if this is done. That is what has worked well with my MS362.
I like it a lot. And have no problem with the 20" bar. Don't find it nose heavy at all.

Thanx for the I/P beenthere. Yep, sounds a bit like my car, only a two speed, (idle & wot). I'll try and bury her in some red gum or iron bark for it's christening/baptism/maiden voyage...etc, (the chainsaw not the car). Then I'll name her, don't quite know what to call a red head that likes to bark'n'bite, but I'll work it out when I get there. Any ideas/suggestions from anyone for a suitable name; not "Lucille Ball", I can see a comedy of errors on this one, but I do like plain and simplicity of "Lucille"or "Lucy". Any other suggestions?. Everyone's got to Luv Lucy.
If it hangs to the left, your likely to be a Husqvarna man.
If it hangs to the right, your likely to be a Stihl man.
Anything else is an uncomfortable compromise.
                             AND
Walking with one foot on either side of a barbed wire fence can become extremely uncomfortable at times.

Pine Ridge

Well if your going to name it after a redhead, you could just quote Al Bundy when things aren't going good, " aaahhh peg " !
Husqvarna 550xp , 2- 372xp and a 288xp, Chevy 4x4 winch truck

Ada Shaker

Quote from: Pine Ridge on November 01, 2015, 10:00:14 PM
Well if your going to name it after a redhead, you could just quote Al Bundy when things aren't going good, " aaahhh peg " !

That one I like even more
If it hangs to the left, your likely to be a Husqvarna man.
If it hangs to the right, your likely to be a Stihl man.
Anything else is an uncomfortable compromise.
                             AND
Walking with one foot on either side of a barbed wire fence can become extremely uncomfortable at times.

John Mc

Quote from: Ada Shaker on November 01, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Then I'll name her, don't quite know what to call a red head that likes to bark'n'bite

Maybe you should call it a wife.
If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.   - Abraham Maslow

Ada Shaker

Quote from: John Mc on November 02, 2015, 08:57:09 AM
Quote from: Ada Shaker on November 01, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Then I'll name her, don't quite know what to call a red head that likes to bark'n'bite

Maybe you should call it a wife.

Do you mean when I'm angry at the first wife, I should take the second wife out; and go cut some firewood?.LOL. Not bad anger management idea, GO Cut Ten Chords Of Wood!!! Forget the push-up's :D.
Let's just hope the first wife doesn't find out about the second wife, or the second wife never meats the first wife :-\. In that case I might have to call her Christine (after the 58 Plymouth Fury) :D :D :D.
I mean, the second wife looks very sexy when she goes topless and just lets it all hang out. :o
If it hangs to the left, your likely to be a Husqvarna man.
If it hangs to the right, your likely to be a Stihl man.
Anything else is an uncomfortable compromise.
                             AND
Walking with one foot on either side of a barbed wire fence can become extremely uncomfortable at times.

woodsdog2015

Quote from: beenthere on November 01, 2015, 06:59:48 PM
Seems in some recent thread(s) that the consensus and interpretation of the operator's manual, was to not run wide open throttle unless buried in wood. At least for the first two tanks of fuel.
But that less than WOT in wood wasn't recommended.

The computer in it will make the right adjustments needed if this is done. That is what has worked well with my MS362.
I like it a lot. And have no problem with the 20" bar. Don't find it nose heavy at all.

Beenthere, what happens if you run the Mtronic NOT WOT all the time while in wood????  Is there problems that you've had in your experience.  Cut a three nice logs this weekend within an hour with my MS362CM now that itw working great.  Really like this saw a lot.  There were a few times I didn't gun it in the wood as I thought it had to break in but then I remembered that as long as it was in wood it was ok to run it WOT.  What if a user is somewhat inconsistent with this does it botch up the computer or something???? Ugh.. so much to remember I just want to cut wood.
I'd rather be in the woods.
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beenthere

QuoteBeenthere, what happens if you run the Mtronic NOT WOT all the time while in wood????  Is there problems that you've had in your experience.

Don't know the answer, as I run WOT when sawing wood. Best that I recollect anyway.
I suspect the "computer" (whatever it be) adjusts to a condition that is believed to be WOT in wood, and after a few times whatever happened prior, will be corrected. Be my best guess anyway.
south central Wisconsin
It may be that my sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others

lamimartin

Quote from: Ada Shaker on November 01, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
Funny that, I wasn't advised about any break-in periods. Can someone advise what the break-in procedure/period is, also any other requirements that might be necessary for these saws?
The MS362 manual says:
A factory new machine should not be run at high revs (full throttle off load) for the first three tank fillings. This avoids
unnecessarily high loads during the break-in period. As all moving parts have to bed in during the break-in period, the frictional resistances in the shortblock are greater during this period. The engine develops its maximum power after about 5 to 15 tank  fillings.


Keep in mind that WOT off load for significant periods is rarely a good idea, but computerized carb adjustments prevent running too lean or too rich, so risk to rev too fast after break in is minimal.

As you noticed, you only need to resist the temptation to try it at WOT when OFF LOAD.  Naturally, you keep working at WOT in normal operation. You should also resist challenging another saw up until your new one has reached its full power after 5-15 tanks.  That's it for break-in precautions.
1964 Oliver 550 tractor, 41hp with custom loader and roof. Interforst SW6600 PTO driven 3tons winch. Stihl MS660 for Logosol M8 Sawmill and Stihl MS261 for firewood.

HolmenTree

That's good information lamimartin   you explained it very well.
Like my Husqvarna  AutoTunes the manual explains WOT "In Large Wood Only" for 5 minutes of steady cutting to preset the micro processor.
It's tells me the factory has machined and run in these powerheads to be partially broke in.
Much different then the older generation of saws as longer breaking in times  were needed.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

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