FYI cost discussions

[Engineer]

There's always a few 'what's it worth' questions floating around in here occasionally, figured I might provide some random prices from my own experience.

Customer of mine is having his land logged, he is trading me logs for engineering/surveying work.  I offered to trade him market rate on a per-dollar basis for my work, with my choice of logs and he pays for the trucking to my mill site.  Good so far.

Eastern white pine is being bought at the mill from the trucker for $350/M.  Just got an e-mail that said red oak is at $1000 to $1400/M on the landing, white oak at $750 to $2000/M same place.     I'm debating if I even want any of that at those prices.  I took 2000 board feet of prime white pine, but I feel I'd be giving him an awful lot of work for a dozen oak logs.    I cannot believe the mills are paying over $1 per board foot unless it's all going to veneer.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there.  He's having black birch taken off as well as some poplar.  The market for the birch is in the loo, so I'll take a lot of that off his hands.   This is in southern Vermont.

[Buzz-sawyer]

Our Illinois red oak are selling from bout 200/m to 500/m with veneer bringing prices like yours.

[Ron Wenrich]

A lot depends on the quality, but I'd say its on the high side for sawlogs.  Red oak veneer is about $1500 in the log yard.  

Try these logprices on for size:  http://www.wightmanlumber.com/logprices.htm  

Prices are at a mill in NY state.  Your's shouldn't be that much different

[Ed_K]

 Price seems a little high. I'm getting 250 - 200 for # 1 thru # 3
 for w/pine. 1300 - 1000 for clear rotary & slicer's. 600 #1 red oak. 300 #1 b/birch.
 General Timber. I have a loar ready for tue. I'll let you know if it's higher.

[rebocardo]

Handy page, especially what makes a choice or select.

[SwampDonkey]

Ron, your specs are pretty much the same as ours up north and the price is similar also. I've had some local folk tell me they seen veneer logs head to Wisc for higher prices. I can't see it being that great a difference to justify the shipping. Anyone have any info for that kneck of the woods?

[WH_Conley]

I just sold one truck load oh WO today, 1921 ft averaged $129.00 a foot, all butts and good seconds, I kept rest of the tree, even with overage I just can't afford to saw these kind of logs for the green market. They were good trees but were not high graded, they were selected for size and maturity, a couple were a little small but they were not as good grade. Of course the top logs would have brought the average way down.
 prices ranged from $2.00 to $.48 per foot, one was standing dead. Don't know if this really helps you out or not. Seems loke farther north you go better prices get.

[OneWithWood]

WH, is that delivered to the mill price?

[WH_Conley]

At the mill, 12 miles. All sales around here to local buyers are delivered.

[verb]

I know what Doyle scale is.

What is Doyle Rule, 1 bark?

[Ron Wenrich]

Doyle rule is the same as Doyle scale.  All logs should be scaled inside bark.  The one bark stuff is to help loggers, but usually is reserved for thin barked wood.

[WH_Conley]

Ron is right, my mistake for the misquote