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Re: band saw mill project
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2019, 07:47:55 PM »
@ Woodpecker ... hmm like the name  "the beast"..might work haha.............. ....@Hilltop366...Interesting power source for sure.. 2 hrs to get the motor out...4 hrs to remove dash and remove complete wiring harness...bench testing gonna be real fun i bet :-\..always liked good challenge..haha
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« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2019, 08:25:22 PM »
 
... Since there is a log arch topic.. i just finished mine up
 

 
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« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2019, 02:51:33 AM »
Nice log arch. That's a project I'm planning on doing too.
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Re: band saw mill project..lifting head assembly..(new motor and gearbox)
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2019, 11:32:35 AM »
 

 After several months.. the mill is on the front burner again...just installed a 24volt electric forklift motor (permanent magnet) and a bigger gearbox (ratio180 to1) tried it out yesterday and was finally happy about the speed lifting the head assembly up at about 6sec. per foot...even tho the engine is not installed yet i seemed to have plenty HP for the extra 200 pds 
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« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2019, 11:56:20 AM »
It's nice to see that your mill build is progressing again.
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« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2019, 07:16:22 AM »
... @ RAYRAR..hopefully i'll be making sawdust by next year..got my two barrels of wast oil for heat thumbs-up... next few weeks will be installing the echo engine.
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« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2019, 12:59:23 PM »
With that waste oil heat, you'll have a warm place to get your mill ready to go. Mine is still set up at the shop in town, not sure if it's going to stay there for the winter or tow it home.
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« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2019, 09:35:17 AM »
I have to give the OP a hand,very creative ideas to say the least .As the old saying goes ,"one mans junk is another mans treasure " smiley_clapping
 

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« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2019, 07:44:07 PM »
God forbid that saw beam binds somewhere, it doesn't look like that motor and gearbox will be waiting around for it xD

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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2019, 07:38:40 AM »
...Tks Al Smith.....lotsa good thinker and fabers on here to comment and help anyway they can thumbs-up                                                                                 @JohsNZ.... motor will turn a few turns after the power is off so i'm not to concerned..more concerned if my gearbox chain breaks..i don't have the safety like acme rods...  was doing more test Sat while standing on the head part (180 pds "engine weight") still raising about 7-8 sec per foot..
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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2019, 10:39:51 AM »
Truth be known a lot of us tinkers and puttsers must have came from the same bolt of cloth .I like the challenge  myself . ;)

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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2019, 10:52:57 AM »
If that reduction unit is a worm gear you won't get an overhauling load heavy enough to over ride it .Big heavy link chain takes a lot to break it .
I suppose there's options for a back up dampening  device in case of a failure for safety reasons .Could be long air cylinders with check valves which would act like shock absorbers or a ratchet /pawl device ,inertia brake .You'll figure it out I have no doubt .

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« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2019, 07:59:06 AM »
 

 Finally bench started my echo engine for the bandsaw yesterday..after i get it bolted on with rad exhaust and fuel pump installed can i dissect most of the wiring :-\... a carburated engine would of been so simple 
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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2019, 08:03:49 AM »
I was so ready to cannibalize my old saturn SL2 for a new mill. but I felt the added size and weight would not gain me anything in the end.

I dunno. I may still do it on the next version. We will see.

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« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2019, 10:20:32 AM »
My woodmizer cuts anything I want with a 14hp k holer motor.  I use to have a 671 Detroit diesel but would never want it mounted on a band saw head.
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« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2019, 07:14:37 AM »
@ Woopecker52 ..i wouldn't want a 671 Detroit either (heavy and loud)          .....
 Crusarius... few reason i'm going with a 4cyl auto engine ..quiet.. fuel efficient(probably as much as any 2cyl winding at 3000 rpm) I'm aiming at between 1200 and 1500 RPM.. lottsa HP since i'll eventually go full hydraulics and need that power for lifting those big logs...was thinking a 3cyl GEO engine would have worked nice too with much less weight and less wiring..my two cents
   @ Al Smith   those are good ideals...i'll look into them when i'm at that point tks                                                                                                                
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« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2019, 09:30:37 AM »
It's none of my business but I would think trying to adapt a fairly modern automobile engine to run as a power source to anything would be a gigantic pain in the behind .Firstly it would have to be governed which would be a big enough deal if it were carbureted and a bigger pain if were fuel injected .
Then you have a cooling system that doesn't have the benefit of having air move past it like on a car .
In addition running at a lower RPM than in a car it won't produce the same HP .Probably enough but it won't be 100 HP .For example my old Oliver crawler has an industrial version of a 1954 Chevy six only more robust ,bearings etc .The Chevy was around 90 HP the Ollie  is about 34-35 .I'm not saying it can't be done but it's going to be a job .Nothing mechanical is impossible though . ;)

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« Reply #77 on: December 05, 2019, 02:11:24 PM »
It's none of my business but I would think trying to adapt a fairly modern automobile engine to run as a power source to anything would be a gigantic pain in the behind .Firstly it would have to be governed which would be a big enough deal if it were carbureted and a bigger pain if were fuel injected .
Then you have a cooling system that doesn't have the benefit of having air move past it like on a car .
In addition running at a lower RPM than in a car it won't produce the same HP .Probably enough but it won't be 100 HP .For example my old Oliver crawler has an industrial version of a 1954 Chevy six only more robust ,bearings etc .The Chevy was around 90 HP the Ollie  is about 34-35 .I'm not saying it can't be done but it's going to be a job .Nothing mechanical is impossible though . ;)
that is what I'm facing right now. adapting an industrial 4cyl diesel, plus the cooling, to run my mill. it is though rated for 100 hp @ 2400 rpm, which i calculated the pulley size to run at 2200 rpm, since that is what the high idle solenoid was set at, according to the tach. i was able to adjust the linkage a lil and get around 2350 rpm. my first challenge is to get it running again. i yanked all the wiring and the generator head out of it, and was able to get it to run afterwards, but just long enough to to run the fuel lines dry. now, i can't even get it power to the switch, yet all switches test fine, wires test fine and i know iv got 12v to the system bc i bump it over at the starter. i HATE electrical.  :'( :'(
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« Reply #78 on: December 05, 2019, 05:08:28 PM »
Well if it's any consolation adding my navy time I had over 50 years of doing electrical work .Low voltage,like 12 volts  doesn't take much to render it non working .It can drive you bonkers trying to find it .Does me ! Fact just today it took me an hour to figure out why my dang tractor wouldn't start .  >:(

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« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2019, 06:36:16 PM »
Well if it's any consolation adding my navy time I had over 50 years of doing electrical work .Low voltage,like 12 volts  doesn't take much to render it non working .It can drive you bonkers trying to find it .Does me ! Fact just today it took me an hour to figure out why my dang tractor wouldn't start .  >:(
Well, after starting at it for the past few hrs and tracing wires, jumpering terminals and accidentally burning out some kind of rectifier that was brand new, trying to bypass 2 safety switches (oil psi and temp), i think i might have figured out how to rewire it. I can get it to start but the starter solenoid stays engaged and when i rmv the jumper wire, it dies. This thing has 2 starter relays (old ford fender well 4 post starter solenoids), 1 for the eng and 1 just for the injector pump fuel shut off solenoid. 
It has 2 cannon plugs that i want to keep but i think in order to rewire and bypass those switches, im gonna have to splice wires in and out of the cannon plugs, bc i dont have any pin/socket instal/rmvl tools. If the splicing works, iíll have to add wiring anyhow, so ill use the splice joints to add in my extra length of wire. 
The odd thing is though, all power in is routed to the starter solenoid first, then off to other areas, instead starting at 1 of the 2 relays, then to the starter. 
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