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Offline Riwaka

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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2019, 02:37:26 AM »
Could always put some hazard tape around the area, to reduce the chance of someone walking under the tree too.

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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2019, 05:57:42 AM »
A 57hp tractor should help. And a long chain.  I have a 3 pt winch on my tractor. I run the cable out and that keeps me away from the danger point. I have seen the butt of them trees come up in the air before they give up their grip way up high. Than they come down and bounce up in the air.
Got the idea about a long chain now??
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2019, 07:46:31 AM »
Your idea of pulling straight is probably the best. As others have said get the longest chain you can find. The limb will drop in the crotch of the white oak and unless the crotch breaks you will not be able to roll it like some have suggested. Try to be 20 or more feet away with your chain when pulling, as what the tree will do when it drops is very unpredictable. Stay safe.  W. Jones

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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2019, 07:58:07 AM »
I have a 83 foot. half inch chain just for such an occasion.  Nylon straps are safer, or even cable.  I usually put chain on the tree so it does not ruin my strap, then convert to strap towards the vehicle.  You can borrow my chain if you pay the shipping.  :)  pulling with a dump truck with the bed up, can help protect the man in the cab.  if it won't drag out of the crotch, attach half way up the tree to apply tension to almost stand the tree back up.
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2019, 08:22:21 AM »
I have a friend that wanted to pull up a stump and decided to do it with his Ford Bronco.  Hooked a chain to the stump, then a tow strap from the back of the truck to the chain.  Could not pull it up just applying direct pressure, so decided to back up a little to put some slack in the chain and the strap and get a running start.  He did, and the tow strap acted like a big rubber band.  When the chain broke, the rubber band tow strap slammed the chain into the back window, shattering it, then the chain climbed over the top of the vehicle, denting the top all the way from back to front, then busted out the front wind shield, then over the hood denting it all the way to the grill :).
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2019, 08:26:12 AM »
it is always fun watching ppl try to pull stumps with trucks. seems the bigger the truck the dumber they are.

Hopefully I did not anger anybody with that statement. Just what I have observed.

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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2019, 09:11:41 AM »
I agree.  I added the strap to get me another 30 feet away.  I tug, or pull tension.  A chain will and has killed people.  when we used to pull stumps, we ran the chain over an old wheel to give "up" pull on the stump.  just a rocking motion.  good for stumps of dead trees up to about 1 foot diam.. A 12 inch ERC tree broke a 1/2 inch chain for me once, so you have to test the waters.  I found the edge of a stump underground digging to place a wall,  It jarred my kidney hitting it with a skid steer.  It turned out to be about 4 feet square.  cut out 1 cubic foot at a time.  This is when my stihl dealer recommended I borrow a neighbors saw for jobs like that.   :D  even without the strap, a chain alone may wind up in the cab if you hit hard enough.
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2019, 09:54:26 AM »
Is there anyone around with a skidder that you can pass a $100 bill to and have him pull it down?  Not to be blunt but shooting in the air with rifled slugs, jacking a widow maker, placing slabs under it, yanking on it with a long chain are all really good ways to end up in the local paper either in one section or another and neither is a good place to be.   
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2019, 11:45:26 AM »


With no winch I would try pulling with the tractor first, with a long enough chain to keep yourself safe. To me a chain is the safest option because it does not spring back at you if it fails.

Doc's putting the chain over a wheel may help get the tree moving or a notched section of log on end starting with the log leaning back towards the tree.

You probably already know to keep the pulling point on the tractor low enough to avoid flipping the tractor but I would feel bad if something happened and I had not said anything.

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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2019, 12:20:56 AM »
used a 22LR many times to get a tree out of a tree, and unintentionally shot a limb supporting my lock-on stand 1 day with a 308. granted, as SSL said, not the best way, but if there are no dwellings around for a mile and your scope it truly zeroed, it shouldn't take many rounds to cut the limb. 
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2019, 02:43:45 AM »
I have a hung up pine I need to get down. I cut it free of the root ball to no avail. Thought about cutting the oak it is hung in but could see no way to do it safely. Having no desire to make an early exit from this world I ditched that idea. It's only hanging in the crotch formed by a nub and the main trunk of the oak. The nub is from a long ago broken branch the has since heal over is is maybe 8" long. Shouldn't take much to roll it off but due to location there is no good access with equipment. I considered wrapping a chain and pulling that to get it to roll. I think I like the idea of adding a lever instead for a torque arm to make the required pull less. It was blown down in a tornado that luckily jumped over the house. We've had two more high wind episodes since then and I had hoped it would come on down but no such luck. Lost several more tree but that one likes it's new home.
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2019, 05:57:33 AM »
Cut the W oak. If you're afraid of a barber chair rap a chain around the base of the W Oak. Above the notch.
That's what I'd do. Good luck
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2019, 06:59:29 AM »
Peter,
I'm not afraid of the oak. It's the pine that has me worried. being able to get out from under it and its branches when it starts coming down. Good point about the barber chair though.
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Re: Red Oak Hung Up
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2019, 08:35:21 AM »
this one may be the case for a come along and a long rope, strap, cable, chain.  be safe
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