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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2020, 08:19:37 AM »
Hey there,

Where are you guys buying the Skidding Ferrules?  I'm in Ontario Canada and just broke the cable on my Wallenstein FX85 skidding winch.  Need a new ferrule end for the 3/8 cable
I should have added that you can get key-hole end from Hud-Son with a ferrule on it for 3/8. I have heard people say they like them. A little pricey though.


https://www.hud-son.com/product/swivel-end-fitter-t3/


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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2020, 10:36:26 AM »
I cant get this no tighter. Is it right? Its 9/16-5/8 size Ferrell


Its 9/16 swedge cable. Im thinking a size bigger may fit better. Ill go suck some big trees up a hill and see.

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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2020, 11:08:11 AM »
Those wedges either go in nice with the "lay" of the wire or they dont, your 1 position off if they dont. I try and leave about 1/2" or so of wire / wedge sticking out, not bad what you've got, I would just hold it up and slap it with a 3-5lb hammer a couple times to get it seated before you hooked to something, I've never had one blow off, if there is any excess I just trim them with a grinder, wrap the end in gorilla tape if it's still poking out a bit. 

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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2020, 11:40:54 AM »
In the photo of the quick nub/Ferrell that Barge showed It looked like the wedges/ inserts were steel , in our experience with these we found that the aluminum inserts/ wedges worked far better than the hard steel. With the aluminum wedges the cable strands sucked down into the Ferrell better and did not strip out as easy under a real hard pull. We used the quick nubs on line sizes from 3/8 to 1". on the 666 Clark  and the D8 logging cats.

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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2020, 08:26:00 AM »
just make sure you have them installed correctly, one cable in the middle and the 6 outside cables perfectly seated in the grooves of the wedges. when you put a heavy load on the will still travel some way in and tighten everything  
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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2020, 04:33:31 PM »
Is there a way I can stop that curl at the end of the cable where all the bells pull on the end. Its needs cut off again. Its starting to brake wire already. 

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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2020, 07:37:59 PM »
Is there a way I can stop that curl at the end of the cable where all the bells pull on the end. Its needs cut off again. Its starting to brake wire already.
I try to leave my cable stretched out hooked to a heavy hitch 1-2x a week, put 3/4 of your wire out and pretty tight over night, helps avoid the curl. 

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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2020, 07:42:15 PM »
near the ferrule there will always be the worst spot, some cables start to brake and eventually it needs to be shortened 
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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2020, 07:50:16 PM »
Ill I cut a foot off August 14th and its almost a 90 and brakeing. Is the cable just old?

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2020, 08:13:50 PM »
When I cut them back its normally 6-8' at a time, that's what takes all the abuse, 1' still has the memory of the curl in it. I've got to cut the one on my 450G tomorrow, dozer cable takes a beating compared to a skidder cable, just thrashed. 

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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2020, 09:27:41 PM »
what length of cable do you guys run, for me it depends on where Im cutting but 125 or 175 ft in normal 

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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2020, 09:50:26 PM »
100ft, 5/8 swedge on small skidder and dozer, normally I will cut my 440D cable 2x or so and put it on the dozer. I've got 7/8 swedge on my 460 right now, if I buy that 640D I will move it over and hang 14-16 slides, i think that machine would handle it. 

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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2020, 06:39:39 AM »
Mines a 100 foot I think. Or was anyways. Ill cut off another short chunk and order a new main line. Keep cutting it off and it wouldnt be much good. And it will be longer. 25 feet would be nice. 

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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2020, 08:19:21 AM »
Barge I use to run 1 1/4 inch mainline on the 740 bottom winch and 1/2 inch on top winch ,All we can buy is swedge or double swedge cable here . If you buy that 640 do yourself a favor and rebuild the motor and put another 100 hp in it , its unreal how that changes the skidder . Do not put a cowboy on driving it cause it will break driveshafts but on long skids the production increases alot with the more power, but you will have to stop at lunch and top the fuel tank up . Biggest thing that surprised us is how the skidder worked in snow , pull 2 more trees and twice as fast


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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2020, 08:34:07 AM »
To heck with reeling out out 1-1/4 cable!   :o


Id hafta hire an amish choker setter and his mule to tug out the freespool.   ;D
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Re: Skidder cable ferrules.
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2020, 09:08:34 AM »
I run 165' of swaged 1/2" and sometimes it's too short. but otherwise it's the perfect cable for me for the small diam teaktrees. would i love to have a euro style double drum winch with remote, they can hold around 280-360' 1/2" cable on each drum, so shortening wouldn't be a problem.

Dito on the 1 1/4" cable, i tried 9/16" swaged before and it was already too heavy to drag in our temps, i'm way happier with the 1/2"
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2020, 10:20:45 AM »
To heck with reeling out out 1-1/4 cable!   :o


Id hafta hire an amish choker setter and his mule to tug out the freespool.   ;D
Yeah but it's all bunched wood, back in and just hook and go, i rarely pull more than 30' of cable, pull 14-16 slides out thru the woods will kill someone 😂 I've had 6 on that 440 forever which isn't bad, went to 8 on that 405 and that got heavy, 10 on the 460, anything over 8 you really need a loader sitting there and you pick the pile apart to get unhooked. 

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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2020, 01:10:25 PM »
9/16 swedge is plenty for these smaller skidders. Its rated for more that the winch, which is rated twice what the machine weighs. But maybe that why my end keeps going bad🤔

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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2020, 01:24:00 PM »
If only something could be added to the last two feet or so to take the abuse. Kinda like my air hoses in the shop I use a hydraulic hose on the last two feet. 

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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2020, 06:07:22 PM »
the 740 was real heavy , we had other 740's but they were just the normal skidder , this skidder had the twin winches plus the blade that angled left to right . I built alot of roads with that machine . I use to run 14 chokers on bottom winch and in deep snow pulling that plus that nice mainline it made a man or a fool out of you . 2 hitches from that machine was more than what a log truck with pup trailer could haul . Cutters and landing men hated that skidder cause when it showed up you had to go to work 


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