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Chasing the sawdust dream
« on: June 02, 2019, 11:59:25 AM »



Some of the first Red Pine from my land I cut into lumber.

This summer it will be 2 years since I bought my first sawmill, and got hooked on making sawdust. I'm going to try doing a thread about some of the equipment I've used, logs I've sawed, and projects I've built with my lumber. Also what I've learned along the way, as I chase my dream of turning a fun hobby into a full time business. All of which I've been able to do with help from what I've learned here on the forum. Thank you FF!



My first mill. A friend of a friend had a used Woodland Mills HM 126 that he had cut all the lumber he wanted, and no longer needed. He did not have it listed for sale, and I was the only one he showed it too. We agreed to price, and he required no down payment. Just a hand shake and come back later with the money to buy it.
The mill proved to be a good basic beginner mill, and I cut quite a bit of lumber with it. Before I sold it I built a frame of 2" x 5"x 5/16" wall tube steel. I bought full 20' long pieces from a nearby steel supplier. (Bringing them home on my 10' trailer there was just a little overhang on the tail end!) This made a continuous frame with no joints, easier to keep in alignment and level. I used heavy angle iron for cross braces, bolted to tabs I welded on. This also made it so the next owner would just have to add an axle and a hitch, and it would be a portable trailer sawmill. When I sold the mill, I came out ahead. I got what I had paid for it, as well as the cost of the steel frame, not to mention the value of all the lumber It had produced.
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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Re: Chasing the sawdust dream
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2019, 12:30:52 PM »




My second (and current) mill, my Wood-Mizer LT 28, brand new from the factory in fall 2017. I saved the a section of that black plastic wrap, and use it as a rain cover for the engine.



As it is today, cutting some "wood pecker pole" spruce. Very pleased with it's performance, with very few issues since I've had it. And yes my next mill will have hydraulics!
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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Re: Chasing the sawdust dream
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2019, 02:11:06 PM »
nice pictures  Glad I met you last spring
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2019, 02:32:52 PM »



One of the first projects I built with the lumber I cut with my first mill, was a deer blind (or "shooting house" to the guys down in the land of grits ;)). I used Spruce for everything from the framing, to the full 2" floor, to the natural edge siding. The only money I had in it was the cost of hardware, metal roofing, clear acrylic for windows, and the waterproof stain. I sold it for less than plastic deer blinds were going for, plus it had the look of a mini cabin.













Inside view, with sliding windows to slide open to bag the buck!
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2019, 02:41:33 PM »
Thanks trapper (Marv), was good to meet you too!
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
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Re: Chasing the sawdust dream
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 05:54:39 PM »
More pics of projects I've built with lumber cut with my mill. This was a small outdoor building built entirely with Red Pine I had logged and sawn. The outside was reverse board and batten natural edge siding with a clear finish. The customer is a relative of mine who's father planted the trees I used, so the lumber had special meaning.

Being built with fresh sawn lumber off my Wood-Mizer in winter 2018.


The structure set in its final location at the customers hunting camp on family land.






The inside I made paneling from blue stain Red Pine, ripping narrow boards with the best color, and making panels from them.





Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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Re: Chasing the sawdust dream
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2019, 09:24:59 PM »


Custom sawn lumber, and lumber from my own supply, sold. 8)
1" random width Poplar boards going to a rebuild a hunting camp.

A different customer order, quarter sawn Sugar Maple.







A repeat customer has asked me to build a breakfast "nook" for a new home he is building. I cut a good sized Sugar Maple tree from my own woods, and milled over 300 bd ft of mostly clear quarter sawn lumber from the trunk logs. Nice part about this time of year is you can peel the bark off a log pretty easy before you saw it. Not so nice part was getting the logs out of the woods, had the tractor buried to the frame in the mud, and got to deal with an army of wood ticks and mosquitoes. :D
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
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I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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Re: Chasing the sawdust dream
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2019, 11:46:14 PM »
Nice work, you will like the hydraulics whenever you get them, I know I do. That being said, Iím glad I cut my teeth on a manual mill, I feel like the lessons learned were better earned 😉
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2019, 12:51:03 AM »
Good story so far, I'll stay tuned.
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2019, 09:21:27 PM »

Happy 4th of July! Hottest most humid weather we've had all year! Spent the last few days sawing some of my fresh cut Spruce into 4/4 random width boards.


One good thing this time of year the bark peels easily off the logs, especially with logs that got muddy skidding out of the woods.


I also took the time to trim branch nubs flush with the trunk without bark.


Peeling the bark extends blade life, and makes a clean edge if a board corner has some wane. Though it also makes the logs slippery, and want to slide around on the forks. ::)


Some off the logs I sawed the cant center into a 2" board, which made it easier to avoid splitting the pith.
I'm still practicing NOT splitting the pith. :D


Recently picked up a moisture meter (General MMD4E) to track how my lumber is air drying, and to let customers know what the lumber MC is when they buy it.


And just to see for myself how well the stuff you guys talk about works, I got a gallon of Anchorseal to try on my logs to be sawed into slabs. Hopefully this will make less checking in the wood, and lead to more checking in the bank!  ;D
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 06:34:22 AM »
Looks like you're doing pretty good with the mill!

Gotta be careful with fresh-peeled logs, kinda like handling a fresh-bathed baby! ;)
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2019, 11:22:17 AM »



New customer, brought his own self unloading truck. :)



Monster Sugar Maple he had me saw, If I'd known how heavy it was, I would of had him set it right on my mill. My Kubota lifted it, but the back tires were almost off the ground. The winch driven claw log turner sure did it's job well.



Cut it into 2" x 14" pieces for guitar blanks (not the first time I've cut pieces for guitars :D). Had some curly grain, and streaks of stain from the ends.



He also brought some old hand hewn barn beams to be sawn in half for a interior project. Amazingly there were no nails! I put an old blade on just in case, and the white cedar cut like butter.



Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2019, 01:53:47 PM »
Looks like you're having a great time.
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2019, 05:40:09 PM »
Yes RAYAR, I do enjoy running my sawmill, and being able to work from home. Trying to start a business from nothing, and worrying about irregular income, is the tough part.




I really liked the camp fire benches that Jeff built at the Pig Roast. (See "Mock Up" and "Pig Roast 2019 RSVP" thread in General board.) I built my own version, with a few things different from the originals:
I used Spruce 6x6 instead of Cedar, (cause I don't have any Cedar). :D
Planed the surface smooth on the seat and arm rests.
Added a 2 1/4" block under the armrest to raise it and the back rest up, and also to serve as a cleat to screw the armrest onto the seat.
Used a router to round over the corners.
Used 10" T50 torx head anchor screws from underneath, to hide the fasteners.
Put the back rest 6x6 on the mill with a 1" sticker to tilt it, and ripped it at an angle to make it more comfortable.
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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Re: Chasing the sawdust dream
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2019, 07:36:40 PM »
Really well done.
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2019, 07:46:18 PM »
that looks great, and clearly designed for a guitar player, where I think Jeff's was designed for a balalaika player.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2019, 09:00:32 PM »
 :D :D


Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2019, 09:04:04 PM »
I feel like a grandad!!  :D
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2019, 07:48:31 PM »
Took a trip back in time today at the steam and gas tractor show near me in Edgar Wisconsin. Here are a few pics of the belt driven saws they were running through the weekend.



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Was fun to watch the big circle mill inside the shed run, powered by a long belt drive off a steam tractor. It would chug along quietly between logs, and then bear down and chug smoke when sawing a big Pine log.





The main drive line also powered a secondary pulley overhead, which ran a chain elevator to remove sawdust outside into a wagon.


5 man "Armstrong" log turner.


Boards cut off were run through the belt driven edger, and any bark slabs and edgings were then crosscut into firewood size pieces. The lumber is used for restoring buildings on the grounds, and the firewood for firing steam engines.
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2019, 08:03:51 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2019, 08:45:14 PM »
man killers, those belts and blades. you really had to know where to keep your hand and stuff out of.  thanks for the pics.  
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2019, 09:59:39 PM »
Great photos and narrative!  Thanks for the time to do this.

I must admit given modern world of safety consciousness looking at some of these devices makes you think how on your toes you needed and how accidents could happens so easily.

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2019, 10:00:20 PM »
Thanks guys. Though the sawmill is inherently dangerous, the machine that was scary to watch was a wood splitter one guy had running. He used a hit and miss gas engine to spin a big cast iron flywheel with a sharp wedge mounted to the outer rim. Standing chunks of chord wood up by hand in line with the spinning wheel-wedge to split them.  :o
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2019, 12:12:49 PM »
i have seen some like that on you tube.  great to watch on a night shift if feeling sleepy.  the adrenaline combined with coffee or diet pepsi keeps me going! :)
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2019, 01:21:48 PM »
I always enjoy hearing and seeing them things run!!!
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2019, 03:39:54 PM »
Dont drink diet pepsi doc, its not good for you.  ;)
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2019, 08:27:00 PM »
diet pepsi keeps me going!
It's a proven fact that diet Pepsi will make you fat. ::)  Have you ever seen a skinny person drinking one??  ???
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diet pepsi keeps me going!
It's a proven fact that diet Pepsi will make you fat. ::)  Have you ever seen a skinny person drinking one??  ???
That's true Lynn, also, unless you are a very brittle diabetic, you'd be a whole lot better off with the sugar. 
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2019, 10:13:07 PM »
when i was in undergrad college, i also worked full time as an RT in the Lawrence memorial hospital.  i drank 5 reg. cokes a day in 8 hours.  I also did research for a year and a half, so i needed the sugar and caffeine.  i weighed 135# and was 3% body fat.  we would meet and run for an hour after work at 1 am and go to class at 8 am.  i was burning all the sugar.  i drink diet coke cause I am already fat, and I do not want to get fatter!   :D  .
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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2019, 06:00:49 PM »
I do like a good tall cold sweet tea myself, reminds me of years ago driving truck down south in the land of grits, where the waitresses called me "Hon' " ;D

Did a little welding and fabricating recently with some pieces I picked up at the steel supply yard near me. The have a large selection of channel, angle, plate, pipe, etc. and charge by the pound for cut-offs and scraps.



Made a jib hoist out of 6" C channel, 5" tube cut in half, and a couple short lengths of chain with hooks. I use this for lifting logs off of trailers that have sides/fenders that get in the way of the forks. 




Also made a trailer jack bracket to mount on my mill. The bracket wraps around the frame, and the removable C channel at the top holds it in place. That way I'm not drilling holes or welding to the trailer monorail frame. I also added a few pieces of 4" nylon cargo strap for padding to keep from scratching the frame paint. The jack itself came with a short steel pipe section I welded in place, and it can be removed by pulling a pin. Adding the jack made a HUGE improvement not only for hitching and unhitching, but also for leveling the mill before sawing. (Wish I would have done this 2 years ago!) :D
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2019, 06:46:59 PM »
Dont drink diet pepsi doc, its not good for you.  ;)
new study in JAMA says all soda is bad, do not know why but worldwide correlation
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2019, 10:44:20 PM »
Meh.... bad schmad, life is 100% fatal anyway.  smiley_skull  Some days diet Pepsi is a blessing, most all things in moderation.. oh yeah and Resonator nice pictures as well, like your jib hoist,  my heavy trailer has those fenders in the way as well. 

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2019, 09:27:58 AM »
Everyday something is added to the list of stuff that's bad for you.  Occasionally something is removed from the list and determined to be OK after all.  It's important to watch the news closely so you know what to scared of.    :D :D

Be careful of excessive moderation.  ;D

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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2019, 09:57:46 AM »
when i was in undergrad college, i also worked full time as an RT in the Lawrence memorial hospital.  i drank 5 reg. cokes a day in 8 hours.  I also did research for a year and a half, so i needed the sugar and caffeine.  i weighed 135# and was 3% body fat.  we would meet and run for an hour after work at 1 am and go to class at 8 am.  i was burning all the sugar.  i drink diet coke cause I am already fat, and I do not want to get fatter!   :D  .
Dont drink diet pepsi doc, its not good for you.  ;)
new study in JAMA says all soda is bad, do not know why but worldwide correlation
I can certainly believe this, soda consumption has moved pretty much in correlation with declining health.  We just don't need to drink anything more than H20, a soda should be a treat once a day or less and not these 32 oz things people consume like crazy.  Just common sense I'd think.  In the poor south it used to be people drinking cool-aid with just crazy amounts of sugar, now it is soda.  Sigh.

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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2019, 11:26:34 AM »
My uncle had kidney cancer last year.
Drinks lots and lots of diet soda
I think that did it
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2019, 08:37:29 PM »



Some of the Sugar Maple I sawed last year, is in a friends shop being made into an island countertop. This will go into a repeat customers new house (the tree came from his land). Stay tuned for more future work on this project. ;)



Sold 650 bd. ft. of my rough sawn 1" Spruce.  8)
This customer saw my ad online, and drove about 2 hours each way to buy it, and was glad to fit it all in his short box pickup! While I was helping this customer, another pulled in my driveway and bought a 3' Black Ash natural edge slab. I'm grateful for the business, but do they have to pull in all at the same time?! :D
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2019, 08:44:26 PM »
I like when customers all come at the same time. That means I don't have to stop what I'm in the middle of to wait on them.
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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2019, 08:46:18 PM »
I've had customers drive over 3Ĺ hours one way for hemlock and Ash.
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2019, 02:53:10 PM »



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Stay tuned for more future work on this project. 
As promised the Sugar Maple project continues. My repeat customer found a guy with a solar kiln to dry the lumber for his new breakfast nook. (My lumber is stacked in front.)




He claims it can get up to 120į on a good sunny day. I tend to believe him as I was sweating loading lumber inside on an overcast day. The gray metal duct at the bottom of the wall runs to a furnace for additional heat in winter. During the summer the only cost to run it is the electricity for the fans.




I left my lumber in good hands, knowing he had some large animals standing guard. ;D
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2019, 08:43:56 PM »



I had a new customer stop in and buy some full 2" x 12" White Pine I had for sale. Some of the wood was from a huge tree taken down by a tree service, and some wood from my own land. I had originally cut it into random widths, but he requested it be resawed into 12" for stair treads. The lumber buyer is a custom builder who plans to build a playhouse - man cave inside a converted grain silo. 




Not long after the lumber customer, I got a call from a many times repeat firewood customer buying the first load of the season. Board footage and cord woodage, just another day chasing the sawdust dream. ;D
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2019, 08:12:23 AM »
Recently I picked up my Sugar Maple from the solar kiln (the one with the cows standing guard). Both my meter, and the kiln owners meter, read the boards at 6 - 7% M.C. after about 2 months of drying. 8)
I was very pleased how straight they dried, the only bad ones were the short pieces on the top of the stack that looked like airplane propellers. I'll make sure to stack some heavy weight on top next time.
    But before I could start building the custom breakfast nook, my best repeat customer had another project to do. I had helped him and his wife move into his new house, and he soon realized he had to much junk, and not enough storage space. (A friend told me once you need to move every 4 - 5 years to get rid of all your junk. :D) After looking at how much pre-built yard barns cost, I offered to build him a 10x12 for less $$$ using my lumber.








I used my air dried Red Pine for all of the joists, studs, rafters, and shelf supports. The only big box store lumber was the plywood and a few 12' 2x pieces I used for the top wall plate, and on the front of the shelves. I used these since I didn't have any pieces that long, and they were extras he had saved from the new house build.
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2019, 09:24:17 AM »
I love it.  Building such buildings actually was my job before I bought my sawmill.  I started using "bandmilled" lumber to save on my costs and then decided that I liked his job better than mine.  Wow, that was 18 years ago.
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