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Re: My attempt at free hand milling
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2019, 12:34:40 PM »
Looks like you did well, better than my first attempt is say,   welcome to the fold, keep posting on the progress, there are many worse vices to pickup. 

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2019, 12:53:56 PM »
It's a 12 step program.  

1) Cut a piece of wood
2) Buy some small equipment
3) Build more equipment
4) Buy BIGGER equipment
5) Attend group support meetings in places like Georgia and Michigan where the "cover story" is educational or food based.
6) You suddenly find an interest in chickens.....

etc., etc,  :D
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Re: My attempt at free hand milling
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2019, 02:07:32 PM »
I stand buy my early delete post !! what a wast of a 12 straight log...
Why?  It could have been firewood or taken to a landfill and buried.  The OP turned the log into material he plans to use.  
Is it any different than it being milled into 2x 12' long boards then cut to 3' or 4' lengths for a project?  Same difference.

Plus he enjoyed the process and learned something.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2019, 04:53:12 PM »
I stand buy my early delete post !! what a wast of a 12 straight log...
Hey logman, I bet you are a great guy.  We are here to support each other and occ. poke a little fun and learn something.  remember when you text or email stuff, folks do not always know if you are joking or not.  I am like you and can hardly stand to see things go to waste.  i have about 20 maple logs in my yard.  i have a 1 tone dually, a 32 foot goose neck, a 277c track loader, and a b 2000 sawmill.  i am very lucky.  it sounds like our new member is just getting started.  Remember Swearwords are not allowed, and this day in age i think we have to be careful what we say.  I may have overstepped my bounds, but i hope this helps you understand.  @logman 219 
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2019, 06:19:44 PM »
Doc, in the spirit of things, are those more of those special Kansas Maple logs?  :D
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2019, 06:41:05 PM »
never sure till I post them on the forum.  did you see tree of the day?  i was told it was a "black oak" by the wife of the tree service guy.  what can be more reliable than that.  i almost tagged you when the foresters said it was... a silver maple.  must be the weather and the soil conditions that make all the maples in ks look like an oak.   8) 8) :o :o :o :D :D :D :).  do you still like Ice with your sweet tea? ;)
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2019, 06:49:28 PM »
And a bigger truck, cant hooks, a bigger chainsaw, a solar kiln, a planer/molder.....
Yep. It never ends. But thats a good thing.
Some people think that holding the couch down is good hobby. I doubt any of em are members of the FF.
Btulloh, I resent that generalization! Why just this week, I was able to hold a couch down; It was around 2:45 am on Tuesday, it lasted about 10 minutes- and it was glorious!
They say the mind is the first to go; I'm glad it's something I don't use!

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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2019, 08:24:21 PM »
do you still like Ice with your sweet tea?


Proud to say yes.. ;D
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« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2019, 08:33:59 PM »
@olcowhand , you make a good point. It is a good and necessary thing at times.   :D

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Re: My attempt at free hand milling
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2019, 09:15:48 PM »
never mind its not a 2x12 (24 board feet) its a 200 board foot log cut 3-4 feet long to use a chain saw

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« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2019, 11:36:27 PM »
"What we have here is failure to communicate." :D
 2x 12' long, I believe was read incorrectly and I can see why.  2" boards random width 12' long is what I intended.

I get it @logman 219 you wanted the log cut into some sort of lumber on a sawmill.  The OP doesn't have a sawmill, he used what tools he had to make something he could use.  I stand by my statement, that's not a waste.  I'm pretty sure the OP wishes he had a sawmill to go about it differently.
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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2019, 09:32:32 AM »

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I see your future.... there's an entry level bandsaw mill...and a log arch, and a home made log arch trailer.....
And a bigger truck, cant hooks, a bigger chainsaw, a solar kiln, a planer/molder.....


Heh, I just brought up the idea of a bigger truck to the missus yesterday, she was all excited to try and find one. I hate shopping for vehicles but she loves it. Now to figure out how to pay for it :D
I'm definitely bitten by the bug. Been trying to figure out how to find logs to mill. Found a few in the local ads but people want a lot of money and at the moment I don't know enough I'd want to pay for what may not be a good log. 
I keep seeing a lot of Elm being cut down, is it any good?
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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2019, 09:40:39 AM »
"What we have here is failure to communicate." :D
 2x 12' long, I believe was read incorrectly and I can see why.  2" boards random width 12' long is what I intended.

I get it @logman 219 you wanted the log cut into some sort of lumber on a sawmill.  The OP doesn't have a sawmill, he used what tools he had to make something he could use.  I stand by my statement, that's not a waste.  I'm pretty sure the OP wishes he had a sawmill to go about it differently.
I didn't see the post logman made that was removed but I can guess more or less what it was and I take no offense. If anything I sort of agree with him. I would have preferred to pull the trunk out whole but short of a crane that could lift a 1 ton log from a 60' horizontal run it wasn't going to happen. The homeowner had already had someone who wanted to drag it out so they could mill it full length but this was a very nicely landscaped house and the homeowner wasn't having it. 
It was not my first choice to cut it down but that was the only way I could haul it out. I figure those 3-4' sections weight 4-500lbs each and we were using muscle power and a dolly to do it all. As has been said, I did the best I could with what I have. I wish I had the equipment to have "done it right" but alas, the cost is more than my budget will take. I also live in the city with neighbors on either side of me so I am not sure how I would fit a bandsaw mill and solar kiln in, though I am stretching my brain trying to figure out how to do it  ;D ;D
Thanks all for the kind words and even the "what were you thinking" sentiments, this is a great forum!
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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2019, 11:19:44 AM »
I like red elm(slippery elm) or american elm or any elm.  My key to finding logs was making relationships, and talking to people.  I get some logs from 2 firewood guys I've developed a rapport with.  They'll save out the better saw logs to sell to me.  They have relationships with tree services who need to get rid of logs they take down.  They are more rural, so sometimes there are logs with nails, but not so much that I can't deal with it.   Craigslist is another possibility if you have the ability to load and move logs.  A log arch trailer like Matt Cremona's  on youtube would be very helpful.  I'm planning to outfit one like his soon.  Until then I have to pay to get logs delivered to me.  Another way is just talking to people.  Maybe they will have some trees cut down and will call you to take the logs, or they know somebody...   I was in the ford dealership waiting area, and struck up a conversation with a guy having his truck serviced.  When I brought up milling and logs, he mentioned that he just had a walnut grove bulldozed 4 months ago and the logger never followed through on their deal to pay and take the logs.  I went and looked the next day and struck a deal right there.  I had to buck the logs for 3 days, arrange my firewood guy and his skid steer to come and pile the logs in preparation for moving them, then hire another tree service to come with their log trucks and load and move almost 2 semi loads of walnut to my place.  I milled Walnut for over a year and still have a bout 10 to do,  on that one deal.  You never know...
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2019, 12:40:07 PM »
'Goodbye city life"  ;D  that dates me a little bit oh well..   I see a  3/4 ton pick up in your future. 

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« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2019, 02:32:20 PM »
And a tape measure with a claw so large you could till the yard with it...unless of course they are all discontinued 
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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2019, 03:35:42 PM »
Elm is beautiful and in most areas plentiful and most folks do not even want it for firewood.   so a great young mans wood.  it has tough grain and may move while drying, but it can be planed our.  Just gave some to a past eagle scout to make a baby crib.  he gets me good prices on Stihl product.  i gave him oak to build a bed a year ago, but have released him to name the soon to be born baby anything they want.  does not have to be named after me!!!  friends almost bought an 8k dollar table made from an "exotic hardwood".  It was elm.  



 

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« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2019, 06:30:22 PM »
I'm thrilled to hear elm is worth using! I see it being cut down around me all the time but had read that it was no good for anything (ok mostly firewood but my brain kinda carried that over to other uses.)

I grew up hating the Chinese Elm trees cause they have those little seeds that just go everywhere and they were always weeping the sap everywhere and looked nasty. Guess it's time to rid myself of old prejudices.

Local ad has some elm logs for free, most are only a few feet but a few look like they are 4' or a little longer. I am going to go and try to pick it up tomorrow morning unless it's already taken. Then I'll have to weld me up a chainsaw mill jig and maybe some sort of table to take the logs off the ground (I hate bending over or crawling, I'm not in great shape unless pear is a shape  ;D)  

It'd be really awesome to be able to use wood I've sourced, milled and dried to build the furniture in my "Man Cave!"

Until I can afford the 70cc pro saw that'll run the 30"+ bar to mill with, is putting a 24" bar with a semi or full skip chain on my little 50cc saw a reasonable option? My thinking is I will lose 4-8" of bar to the clamping mechanism of the jig so only 16-20" will actually contact the wood. I already have a chisel chain that I could frankenstein into a semi or full comp but want to be sure it's worth the time and effort. Yes I could buy one for not much but I got the tools and time and it'd be good practice on chain repair. 

Thanks again for prodding me on this little journey!

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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2019, 08:41:16 PM »
Brandon -

Already building equipment. 

How do you feel about chickens? Asking for a friend.  :D

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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2019, 08:46:17 PM »
do not answer that Brandon, it is a trick question and will go on forever, do not get him started.  in fact do not even stare at the thread.  we have lost several valued member to the dreaded chicken theme!  may God help us all!!! :) :) :)
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