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Re: Knee Replacement...Now Shoulder
« Reply #320 on: January 14, 2020, 04:52:15 PM »
I just got a list of charges from my insurance company; $108,430.  Said that it was not a bill.  ::)

I need to get this shoulder done before they come and repossess the knee.  :o
Ridiculous.
But then my feelings about healthcare costs will get me in the woodshed or under it.
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Re: Knee Replacement...Now Shoulder
« Reply #321 on: January 14, 2020, 10:39:12 PM »
I just got a list of charges from my insurance company; $108,430.  Said that it was not a bill.  I need to get this shoulder done before they come and repossess the knee.  


You would think they make those knee sockets out of gold.  I hate to think how much the shoulder surgery will cost.  

However, I when I went in for stitches on my finger, they charged almost $1,500.  The doctor admitted I was paying for 5 people who didn't pay.

When my dad had heart surgery in his 80's he kept the doctors and collectors at bay by paying them $10 a month until he died.  

My wife has found the same works for her and often times they will settle for pennies on the dollar instead of taking the $10 bucks  a month payment for years.
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« Reply #322 on: January 14, 2020, 11:32:19 PM »
Talking with my doctor when getting my bp checked she suggested I  talk to a sleep doctor.  went today for the appointment.  The dr completely ignored any causes like restless legs and other possible reasons.  He insisted on a sleep test at the hospital and then fitted for a mask.  It was like  dealing with a used car salesman on commission  for selling the sleep test and mask.  I will refuse the appointment if one is made. This hospital just paid a 10 million fine for doctors to refer people to them.  My regular dr is great.
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« Reply #323 on: January 15, 2020, 02:23:44 AM »
I wish you guys would stop bragging about your new body parts.... when I went looking for a New Liver and Kidney, I found they don't make them in my size, so I had to go look on the used market...

Oh, and costs... simultaneous liver and kidney about $1,600.000. Throw in some dialysis, paracentesis, and drugs and the total exceeded $2,200,000.00. Now I detest payiong the monthly premiums at around $1600/ mo, and the $6400 out of pocket, but it's the first time I think I've won on an insurance scheme...
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« Reply #324 on: January 15, 2020, 08:03:48 AM »
Talking with my doctor when getting my bp checked she suggested I  talk to a sleep doctor.  went today for the appointment.  The dr completely ignored any causes like restless legs and other possible reasons.  He insisted on a sleep test at the hospital and then fitted for a mask.  It was like  dealing with a used car salesman on commission  for selling the sleep test and mask.  I will refuse the appointment if one is made. This hospital just paid a 10 million fine for doctors to refer people to them.  My regular dr is great.
Buy a CPAP machine off amazon or craigs list. They are pretty simple. Skip the Doctor. Sleep studies are another rip off. Just charged my friend $8k for one. He didn't have insurance.
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« Reply #325 on: January 15, 2020, 09:08:24 AM »
Talking with my doctor when getting my bp checked she suggested I  talk to a sleep doctor.  went today for the appointment.  The dr completely ignored any causes like restless legs and other possible reasons.  He insisted on a sleep test at the hospital and then fitted for a mask.  It was like  dealing with a used car salesman on commission  for selling the sleep test and mask.  I will refuse the appointment if one is made. This hospital just paid a 10 million fine for doctors to refer people to them.  My regular dr is great.
There are recent findings, r.e. Sleep Apnea that say it has other factors aside from the two types previously always mentioned. I've had two sleep studies done and all the regular tests for breathing, oxygen you name it. I tried a mask twice and found it was made illogical for me based on seasonal and chronic allergies affecting my breathing and stopped mask use. I get far more relief by choosing a new allergy doc and regular use of a netty pot and various nasal sprays that free up my breathing. All said, I am NOT! a medical person, just from my point of view. Were it not for back pain and joint pain my sleep would be fairly normal so my wife says.
When I was being stabilized from my heart attack in 2005, an ER doc began lecturing me as to needing a sleep apnea test. This from a doc who knew basically zero about me except the here and now! My wife who was nearby told him to spare the lectures for a better time. It must be beat into some of them? 
My cardiologist shared $6 million dollars with another heart doc for turning in some other heart docs who were doing unnecessary heart related surgeries, like by-passes, etc. BTW, he's still working at age 71. By personal observation I think he likes the vibes from the cute nurses around him...
We are on medicare with a free supplemental from KY teacher retirement and pay very little out of pocket for any joints, beyond smallish minimums. I also have my choice of docs and use one of the best in the country IMO. Honestly dental care cost me more than all the rest as it's never covered by insurance. Even when I worked Delta Dental costs more overall than going to local providers out of pocket as they had lower prices to begin with when Ins cost was added in.
Things like the $7-800 shoulder sling you'll get for a shoulder surgery, your paying for development costs, so they say. I ran into a guy who saw mine and said he threw his away the next day as he didn't like it. Well, I didn't like mine either but was hoping for my shoulder to stay together until it healed! I asked a women next to me in PT how she liked shoulder surgery and her sling, she replied "they are free" so whats not to like?

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Re: Knee Replacement...Now Shoulder
« Reply #326 on: January 23, 2020, 11:55:59 AM »
Preliminary tests and X Ray indicates a torn rotator cuff.  Insurance approval and MRI is next.
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« Reply #327 on: January 23, 2020, 03:42:55 PM »
My great uncle bill called them his rotator cups!  he also had his Cadillac's fixed as well. :D
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Re: Knee Replacement...Now Shoulder
« Reply #328 on: January 23, 2020, 05:32:16 PM »
I wish you guys would stop bragging about your new body parts.... when I went looking for a New Liver and Kidney, I found they don't make them in my size, so I had to go look on the used market...

Oh, and costs... simultaneous liver and kidney about $1,600.000. Throw in some dialysis, paracentesis, and drugs and the total exceeded $2,200,000.00. Now I detest payiong the monthly premiums at around $1600/ mo, and the $6400 out of pocket, but it's the first time I think I've won on an insurance scheme...
Stuart,

    If you are still looking for new or slightly used body parts I can refer you to some folks for a new brain - anybody who knew the previous owners can verify they were never used. :D

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