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Re: What woods where
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2019, 10:21:10 AM »
The 12% was for exterior, what you were asking about above. For interior you would need some heat and time to equalize down to 8 or 9%.

You can screw together finishing drying racks with a number of arms stacked from floor to as high as you can reach and hold a fair amount of wood. Back side down on the arms, pretty face up.

I would have to know the building better to have an idea on the order of assembly I would use.

If you can pick through and buy some extras I've successfully air dried treated on the jobsite.
The place (Menards) that sell it lists is as thus;
  • Tongue and groove system designed to allow some movement between boards
  • Not designed or recommended for ceiling applications
  • Superior strength and stiffness
  • Ready to finish
  • Actual size: dimensions at time of manufacture. Product dimensions will vary depending on moisture content.

Why you think it say's not design or recommended for ceiling applications?

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Re: What woods where
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2019, 02:21:59 PM »
Not a clue, give em a call.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2019, 03:44:19 PM »
Yeah, I already did, they didn't know....... ???

I remember you mentioned that 2 x 6 DF t & g spanned I think you said 6' 6", do you know or can look what this #2 prime 1 1/4" x 7 1/4 (actual), spans? Maybe I have this cart a few feet ahead of the horse...... :-X

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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2019, 04:02:16 PM »
1-1/4 or 1-1/2" thick? 1-1/2 is typical. We are talking SYP correct?
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2019, 04:38:09 PM »
1.25" is what they said about actual size and yup, SYP.

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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2019, 05:52:05 PM »
Skip that, sorry. I forgot I had found this place a while back that offers kiln dried, white pine, western red cedar, spruce or european spruce 2 x 8 t&g with v cut on the one side. Price for the white pine is $1.79 per lf. Doug fir is 2 x 6 same t&g and also $1.79 lf. Would your choice be the DF?  

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2019, 05:56:04 PM »
If grade is equal the DF is considerably stronger.
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2019, 06:02:36 PM »
Pretty sure it is and yes, a lot stronger. I had lost that link, as I had forgot to paste it in my house file and I only found it again while doing a search and it came up that it had been viewed already. But maybe the reason i didn't paste it was due to the price...... But I haven't been able to find kilned t&g DF fir any place else yet either. 

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2019, 07:33:00 PM »



Timberframe live edge braces and fence posts, but mostly braces.  I've done Osage braces before, but this will be my first time attempting to make fence posts.  I have about 4 small diameter straight logs, but mostly larger diameter 16-22" dia 8.5' logs to mill posts from.
Here is one of the more distinctive pieces.  I'm seeing it becoming an archway.
It's about 7-8' across the ends and 14-15" dia I'm guessing.  I'll have to figure out how to make some kind of rotary table to attach to the mill, lock the head stationary and rotate it through the band.


 

 
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2019, 07:53:01 PM »
You are one sick puppy Brad  :D I can't wait to see how this comes out. I like the way you think.
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2019, 10:04:06 AM »
Here is one of the more distinctive pieces.  I'm seeing it becoming an archway.
It's about 7-8' across the ends and 14-15" dia I'm guessing.  I'll have to figure out how to make some kind of rotary table to attach to the mill, lock the head stationary and rotate it through the band.

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I don't have a mill, so maybe this is an ignorant question, but why can't you just fasten it and mill across the arch? It doesn't look to be that wide, but I'm sure you know what your head opening width is and you measured that and it doesn't fit. 
With that said, can't you mill as much you can and then unfasten the wood and swivel the wood while the one end is still in the band saw and re-level and finish cutting? I know that sounds way easier than it would be, as most things are unfortunately..... ;D

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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2019, 09:34:51 PM »

With that said, can't you mill as much you can and then unfasten the wood and swivel the wood while the one end is still in the band saw and re-level and finish cutting? 

You can do that with pieces that have less width.  If you can rotate it a bit on your cross bar/bunk so that it doesn't go out of plane, it works.  That works with pieces with much less curve than this one.  If your cut is not planer, it defeats the purpose.  Once you have the first flat face, you can flip it and the flat face will reference your bunks/cross bars and you can rotate it all you want.  If I had a wide mill with a 35" throat opening, I'd try it just rotating it.  My regular LT15 has a throat opening of 24.5" unfortunately.  The other issue is that I later come back and flatten these types of pieces after they've air dried for a year or more.  The width of the planer head that runs on the mill track is even tighter - 16" plus 4" translation.  I am planning to build a wider mill planer, but haven't gotten to that yet.  It will be the same planer on a much wider mill track (6ft wide) and the planer will still be a 16" wide cut, but I'll build it to translate the full width of the track.
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2019, 09:55:44 PM »
CSM?
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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2019, 10:54:18 PM »
Yes that is possible Don P, but not sure how well the rip skip chain would last on Osage, or even how well Osage will rip cut.
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