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Fixing a ripped bead.
« on: November 16, 2019, 05:59:19 PM »
 The word EDITED BY ADMIN has echoed thru the hills the last couple days. Ripped the bead on that 24.5 tire, put a tube in it, lost the tube. My tire guy says the bead is too ripped. Has anyone ever sent one out to be fixed ? Couple guys have told me Northern tire in Colebrook is the place to go. ???  Ordered a new tire today but want to get this one fixed.



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Re: Fixing a ripped bead.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2019, 06:12:33 PM »
Cut the outside third of the ruined tube off and use it like the flap on a truck tire.  It's hard to get everything in place,  but for the cost of a tire it's worth it. If it's really rough use two thicknesses.   You don't have to go the whole way around the rim, but you should be well past the damage in case the liner slides a  little.   Once it's aired up it should stay in place. 
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Re: Fixing a ripped bead.
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2019, 06:29:59 PM »
That'd be a whole lotta foam but they do fill wheel loaders and such.  No more flats but it might wheelie to one side.  

You ripped the sidewall near the bead or the actual bead sealing surface?  
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2019, 06:57:26 PM »
 Ripped the bead Mike, it didnt seem to bad but the tire guy doesn't want to touch it, I grabbed my ankles and ordered another tire. 😂  I would fix this one and out it on the front, order another in a bit and be done with the rubber situation on this skidder for a while I hope. Going to pull it off and see, I've heard of guys getting them vulcanized. 

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2019, 06:58:15 PM »
I honestly wouldnt be against filling both tires ? Never heard of guys doing it to a skidder. 

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2019, 07:05:28 PM »
Foam will flex far less than air.  It works great for wheel loaders on pavement,  maybe not so well on rough terrain.   Cost is often as much as the tire, depending on what is used.  It adds a lot of weight.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 07:13:28 PM »
Many many moons ago, used to work as an oiler / assistant mech. for a couple different logging / hvy equipment companies, about the only piece with foam filled tires with the logging companies was the skidders, as they were always fighting rolling the beads on stumps, large rocks, etc.  On all my construction sites, I would have all the reach lifts filled as way too many "too close" calls with rebar, stakes, or anything sharp enough to do damage which seemed the guys would always find in short order, way to valuable piece of equipment to be down for any length of time waiting on the tire repair guys. a bit rougher of a ride once filled, but you could pretty much run them until there was no rubber left to be seen, albeit, would here the tire guys with several choice words ringing out once they discovered they were foam fill and needing to replace the way over due tires on the units.

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 08:18:19 PM »
 I ordered a new tire today, if it had 5yrs on it I wouldnt feel to bad. Call up to Colebrook and see what they say, make it work for a front tire hopefully. We have 23.5s on all the 644s and really dont have many issues but they exclusively live in the quarry, never foamed any of them. 

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 09:52:26 PM »
It's $700 ish to foam fill a 14.00-24 tire on my Lull - I would guess triple that for your tire?  
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2019, 11:11:20 AM »
Youre gonna have to go 3rd world on that thing barge

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2019, 06:33:48 PM »
I considered foam tires years ago on my skidder but after talking to guys about it. I was told under tuff conditions you can spin the rim inside the tire. I bet you would learn some new four letter words trying to get a 24.5x32 twenty ply tire filled with foam off the rim  ;).

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 06:48:34 PM »
Id be drilling & tapping six inch long 1/2-13 bolts into the foam.

I bought my old bobcat burnt and half put back together for fairly cheap.  It had foamed tires with almost no tread and the burned side of two tires popped right open after a year or so in the woods and rubble from pushing rebar filled demo out.  Snow chains was all that held the tire on, serious they split into two circular halves so i was running on a big foam donut for months.  They chunked apart a little but it seemed to be because they were full of recycled chunks rather than 100% new foam.  The seam of old and new foam was where it'd start to break down.  

Anyhow i was really impressed with foam and thats without it even being inside a tire. Never had it spin on the wheel but i also didnt have skidder type power going into a 3" tall paddle lug.

I have a big rear counterweight and now my front two tires are just air.  If i dont have an attachment on its easy to get stuck in a wheelie.  The machine was so much more stable with all 4 foams on. 
  
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 09:43:00 PM »
 Take the tire off this week, bring it in the shop and see just how bad it is, I refuse to just throw a 3k dollar tire away. Bead is a little chewed, the seration on the wheel where the bead sits got it a little bit and I think that's contributing. I'm going to make it work for a front tire at somepoint, new tire on this week. 
 I've went long periods of time without tire issues, 2 problems in a week. 😂 


  

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2019, 08:07:20 AM »
Foam would be last resort; expensive, less traction, less carcass life and tough to remove. As mentioned,I would line with old tube sections. Try to get all the wrinkles out and try to run extra air pressure. Inflate remote control and be careful.

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2019, 05:18:59 AM »
I have never known of a skidder with foam filled tires, but I have a 530 dresser loader that I bought from a local scrap yard that has foam filled tires, and there are places where the tire has cuts that are 1 inch wide and 6 inches long that the foam is visible, it has bolts sticking out of it, and I never have to worry where I use it. It seems to be a little rougher ride on good pavement, but hardly noticeable off road 
 Im told the tire guys cut them off with chainsaws when the time comes
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2019, 05:44:52 AM »
Gesh all this fuss  bout selling 1 extra  load of firewood to a NYC native.   I can see it now "Yes sir, $3000 might seem like a slight uptick in price this year but you did want some lovin by the fire firewood, right. "
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2019, 12:53:01 PM »
Gesh all this fuss  bout selling 1 extra  load of firewood to a NYC native.   I can see it now "Yes sir, $3000 might seem like a slight uptick in price this year but you did want some lovin by the fire firewood, right. "
 I wish it was that easy 😂 just a kick in the pants I didnt need. This is basically the last job I cut for a while, I took a Chiefs job at the end of the month, its 28/14, all this iron may go down the road. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2019, 01:26:00 PM »
 I took a Chiefs job at the end of the month, its 28/14, all this iron may go down the road.
Well I for one am sorry to hear this and at the very same time I am very happy for you. Is it on a tug or a barge? My guess is on a tug and with 28/14 I am guessing it transatlantic work? My buddy doing 1st mate work was doing 14/7 all up and down the coast from the gulf to Bangor. 
 Don't be a stranger here, some of us could use your advice. Whichever floating fuel tank you wind up on, they are lucky to have you. ;D
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2019, 01:47:47 PM »
 I took a job working for the "Evil Empire", the boats are nice, when things are busy good luck trying to go home. I took a 100k+ paycut to come home, the comment was made that they can buy their firewood, ok. 😂 

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2019, 07:53:04 AM »
Good luck working for Evil. Is 28/14, 28 on- 14 off?


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